On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 02:37:58 GMT, "Jim Warman"
<mechanic@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>Well, Rich... let's dig a little and see where some of your logic or
>information is flawed.
>
>In nearly 40 years in the automotive trades, I have yet to see a CO2 filter
>or CO2 cannister... I must assume that you are referring to an evaporative
>emissions device that contains activated charcoal. These devices are
>designed to absorb gasoline vapours while the car is parked and then return
>them to the intake tract to be burned in the combustion chamber when the car
>is running.
Shucks.... I thought it was a new device for chilling your beer....
>
>The earliest emission controls were indeed introduce in the late 60s... the
>open PCV system replaced the road draft tube and some areas were treated to
>thermactor or A.I.R. systems to reduce CO (carbon monoxide) emissions.
>
>In Canada, catalytic converters were introduced in 1974.... this is when
>Ford made the leap from breaker point ignitions to DuraSpark. These
>catalytic converters do not "absorb" anything. Instead, they provide a
>"catalyst" that, using heat and portions of the exhaust gases, reacts with
>various compounds to convert them into something less harmful.... one of the
>main thrusts was to neutralize oxides of nitrogen. These compounds react
>with sunlight to form the brown haze we sometimes see in heavily populated
>areas.
>
>It is no secret that early attempts at emissions controls were, at the very
>best, crude. Developement and the knowledge base were both in their infancy.
>There were no North American produced cars that had any sort of "feedback"
>system and carburettors were the norm. We only need to look at the snake pit
>of vacuum hoses draped over the motors in cars of the period to see the
>possibilty of malfunction or even misfunction. As time progressed, R&D
>developed feedback carbs, feedback fuel injection and finally had a foothold
>on various emissions devices that worked more like intended.
>
>Slowly but surely, these systems have evolved into the high-tech systems we
>see on modern automobiles. If you had your way, the engineers of the 60s and
>70s could have waited for modern technology to deal with the concern....
>they needn't bother because the future is gonna save our ass.... If these
>same engineers had sat on these collective asses, the engineers of today
>would still be waiting for the future to save our asses..... not an EGR
>valve in sight (wouldn't be able to see one anyway.... we'd all be looking
>through that brown haze).
>
>Sadly, these systems are still mere machines... they can and will suffer
>from lack of maintenance, breakdowns and malfunctions.
>
>So, on your premise, we should stop spending money on R&D because somewhere,
>someday.... someone will wake up one morning and, without any knowledge -
>without any knowledge base - without any concept... miraculously solve our
>concerns. Rich.... it is the research and developement of past ages that
>provides the controls we have today.... It is todays R&D that will provide
>the controls of tomorrow. Without R&D... there wouldn't be ANY R&D.
>
>I picture Rich as being the ultimate glutton.... demanding his basic human
>right to do things to excess - future generations be damned. After Rich has
>finished shitting wherever and whenever he pleases... then we can try our
>"futile" attempts at minimizing our impact on the environment..... but for
>Gods sake, let's not make Rich behave responsibly.
>
>Man... if people thought you were a self centered dick before.... I think
>you have removed all doubt.
>
>FWIW... if there are any "radicals" to be found in this conversation, I
>doubt that any of them would offer assistance in the repair of one of these
>terrible machines, I doubt that any of them would even think of saying that
>zero pollution is a pipe dream.... I would imagine, though, that a radical
>could be someone that refuses to look at th big picture.... someone that
>turns a blind eye to known concerns that affect us all.... someone that
>thinks a dollar is more important than quality of life...
>
--
Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
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