In article <T8Wvf.3705$H37.579924@news20.bellglobal.com>, fast Ed
<fast_ed@spamania.ca> wrote:
> So Bill, here's a related question then, just to satisfy my curiosity and
> ignorance, without browsing through some dedicated 385 series forums. What
> kind of HP can be made with a stock head 460, for a drivable street car? My
> hypothetical parameters would be single 4V carb, ported stock heads, larger
> valves if needed, cam with under .600" lift and 240 duration, 9.5:1 CR or
> lower, prepped stock rods with good bolts, prepped stock crank.
>
> I realize that some of the factory heads are real dogs. For this fantasy
> build, assume that I could get my hands on a set of D0VE heads, or whichever
> are decent for a buildup. Are we talking 450 (ish) horsepower? Or does it
> just make more sense to pop for the aftermarket heads like the CJs or
> Edelbrocks? Will a 460 as described above survive a 125 or 150 shot of
> nitrous, assuming forged pistons, and a proper tune for the nitrous?
>
> Some day I'd like to do a 460 buildup, but I'm not sure what sort of vehicle
> I'd like to have it in. LOL
Hey, Ed, just look at Ford's crate engines for your frame of
reference. The couple of dyno checks I remember show Ford's rating to
be just a little low.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/crateengine/bigblock.asp
Although Bill is right about some of the wannabes, there remains a
formidable number of guys with dyno slips showing 700 horsepower on up
with essentially repeatable combinations. Noen of it dirt cheap, but
still the best power for the buck. And there are a lot of them that
turn the numbers at the strip. Just look at the times Big Al is
relating.
Mine is the 460SVO short block with 10.5 pistons and the .588/.614
cam. Heads are ported D0VE with CJ valves and Crane aluminum rockers.
Intake will be the Weiand Stealth, and I think I will be choosing the
BIGS 950 HP carb for this. Headers are Hooker Super Comps.
All in all, a combo that the 385 considers a daily driver small
block. Should be fun regardless.
CobraJet
>
>
> cheers
> TS # 27
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> "Bill Beyer" <bill_beyer@excite.cXoYmZ> wrote in message
> news:INSdnWCmyNyjZyPenZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > I moderate a couple of webside boards one of which is devoted to Ford 385
> > series engines. On a regular basis there are posts which follow the same
> > basic outline:
> >
> > "Hey I've got a clapped out 429/460 that I want to get <insert obscene
> > amount of horsepower> out of that will be mostly a weekend play toy but I
> > want to drive it on the street. It needs to run on pump gas. How do I do
> > it?"
> >
> > These posts are inevitably followed by several morons who claim to have
> big
> > block vehicles with ridiculous amounts of RWHP that they drive on the
> street
> > regularly.
> >
> > These boobs clearly have no clue what kind of power they actually have or
> > what it takes to build an engine that will live long enough to get out of
> > the driveway while pumping out insane horsepower.
> >
> > The most recent request was some poor deluded soul who wanted 600 RWHP out
> > of a stock block 460 with D3VE heads while keeping his build price to a
> > minimum and driving it on the street. While I applaud his desire for
> extreme
> > power as well as his choice of powerplant I had to dial my BBA way back in
> > order to keep from flaming his sorry ass.
> >
> > Does this guy really think he can build an engine that will be somewhere
> in
> > the 700 HP range on a miniscule budget? C'mon, how many people are out
> there
> > that can squeeze that kind of horsepower out of those heads and build a
> > bottom end that will live long enough to even break in the cam? Oh yeah
> and
> > do it on a budget that would make Ebeneezer Scrooge seem generous.
> >
> > Has he ever driven a vehicle with that kind of power on the street? Not
> many
> > people have and lived long enough to tell.
> >
> > Lord these fools do try my patience!
> >
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> > TS#10
> >
> >
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