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Re: swapping engines
"Tom Adkins" <newton5@remove.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:VcydnTGaSeCDNHPeRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> lugnut wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:35:17 -0500, "nyslide"
>> <dixiemarie71@peoplepc.com> wrote:
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>>>does anybody know if u can swap a 351 cleveland for 360 in a 70 ford f100
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>> Ditto what the others have said. When you are done and, if
>> you use the truck for pulling or hauling, you will wish you
>> had the 360 back. The far simpler and cheaper thing to do
>> is replace the 360 with another of the FE family which are
>> all pretty much bolt-ins with much better truck performance.
>> One of the best in that family for a PU as a daily driver
>> used for work is the 390. The 351C was never offered in a
>> truck for good reason. The 351M was put into trucks
>> beginning in 1974 or 75 IIRC but, it is not quite the same
>> as a 351C and has a big block bell housing bolt pattern like
>> the 360 FE engine. IIRC, it would still need different side
>> mounts to install. Make sure you know what you are looking
>> at when you deal with Ford engines.
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>> Lugnut
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> Ditto on the 390, I never really cared for the 360. Although installing
> another FE would be by far the best route, they are getting a little hard
> to come by these days. I know from experience that a 351 Windsor with a C4
> trans will bolt right into that series of Ford pickups. I used 302 motor
> and trans mounts. No crossmember or driveshaft changes were necessary. The
> motor and trans was complete with all of the accessories, carb, etc. The
> only sticky part was the exhaust. I had to modify the passenger car
> Y-pipe. This was possible because the truck was available with a 302/C4
> which is very similar to the 351 Windsor.
> With that said, I don't remember if the Cleveland and Windsor motors used
> the same bolt pattern on the block for the motor mounts. IF they do, the
> combo should sit right in there. IF the motor is complete air cleaner to
> oil pan AND has all of the accessories AND 302 mounts will work, it might
> actually be a neat project.
> Before you jump into a swap like this you need to do some homework,
> including an attempt to locate another FE motor.
Didn't the 390s have lots of problems with cracked blocks down by the
camshaft bosses? Seems I recall seeing quite a few with oil leaking into
the cooling jackets because of these cracks.
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