dsundberg

After I bought my 2000 Crown Vic (used) I purchased a workshop manual and a wiring diagram manual from Helms. The total was $195.00 with shipping. I really haven't needed them until now when I went to look for the information on trouble codes. Now I find out that this isn't included in the manuals that I have and in order to get it I must purchase the Powertrain Control Emissions Diagnosis manual for an additional $180.00.

I know that it's expensive to produce these manuals, but to have to pay almost $400.00 for a set is absolutely ridiculous. I suppose this is another scheme to make you take your car to the dealer for service.

 

dryelf327

Man, the OBD-II codes can be found online for free. Also, I would search on ebay for the factory manuals. They're always being sold on there used for a fraction of the cost. You can also get CD manuals online which are a much cheaper alternative.

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My Fords:
'98 Crown Vic LX
-167k miles and counting. Still used as daily driver.

'99 Crown Vic Police Interceptor
-Completed full PI swap
-Marauder Airbox & 80mm MAF
-'04 CVPI Ziptube
-ADTR ported plenum
-Steeda Intake Spacer
-BOC tune
-J-Mod tranny

dsundberg

It's not so much the codes themselves, but descriptions of the various sensors, theory of operation, troubleshooting help, etc. I've looked (and purchased) aftermarket manuals/CD's and I've never found any that I was impressed with.

If you can recommend some, I'd appreciate it. The last CD I purchased was from Alldata and while it had some good information, it was difficult to find and some of images were of very poor quality.