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10pm curfew on drinkers to cut violence

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Sales of take-away alcohol could be banned after 10pm and drinkers stopped from entering bars, pubs and clubs after 1am, under measures to be trialled by the State Government.

The restrictions will be put to the test in regional centres including Newcastle, Albury and Orange as part of a bid to crack down on noise, anti-social behaviour and violence related to excessive drinking.

The Gaming Minister, Richard Face, revealed his plan yesterday, but bottle shops, clubs and civil libertarians immediately criticised the idea of limiting the freedoms of responsible adult drinkers.

The Government's law-and-order campaign is focusing on alcohol-related crime and licensed premises. Mr Face told a club industry forum yesterday that he was examining restrictions on the sale of packaged alcohol from bottle shops, pubs and clubs.

"It may well be necessary to turn back the clock and decide that no liquor be taken away from licensed premises after 10 o'clock," he said. "A lot of alcohol-related problems are literally spilling onto the streets, and I must say, people are fed up."

Mr Face would consider stopping people from entering licensed venues after 1am, although those already there would be allowed to stay until closing time. "It simply tries to stop the movement of people between licensed premises in times when the the anti-social behaviour occurs," Mr Face said.

But he added: "Nobody is trying to be a killjoy."

The measures had already been trialled in Wagga Wagga and Dubbo, where assaults and anti-social behaviour had dropped significantly, he said. Mr Face said he had the support of local councils for the future trials, and he would not impose such measures on communities without their backing.

Recent research by the Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research shows that a small number of licensed premises which open late are associated with a large proportion of assaults. The bureau's head, Dr Don Weatherburn, said alcohol was the most important factor in violence by young males.

"I would have to applaud any government attempt to try to control the availability and abuse of alcohol," he said. "It is much better than sending the paddy waggon around after the fight starts."

The chief executive of Clubs NSW, Mark Fitzgibbon, said he understood the need to reduce unruly behaviour, but a curfew on people entering clubs "could be a little over the top".

"It would have a severe effect on business and on the right of a member to enjoy his or her club at a time that's most convenient to them," Mr Fitzgibbon said.

The president of the NSW council on civil liberties, Cameron Murphy, said as long as people did not break the law, they should be able to decide where and when they wanted to drink.

The head of the Liquor Stores Association, Warren Bovis, said the "draconian restrictions" would hurt legitimate customers.

"We are so conscious now of our responsibility not to serve under-age and intoxicated persons," he said. "I don't see why there is a a need for it."

The National Union of Students' NSW president, Daney Faddoul, said the measures would not reduce under-age drinking but would impede the "legitimate and normal" behaviour of responsible adults.

John Thorpe, from the Australian Hotels Association, said if the 10pm takeaway limit stopped bad behaviour, particularly among young people in public places such as parks, then it may be worthwhile.

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What a crock....
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What a crock....
Agreed 100%. I thought that's what security is for..

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The US Libertarian party has alot of good ideas.. I am so tired of laws protecting people from themselves by legislating for the lowest common denominator while restricting those of us with brains... I am also tired of being treatedlike some kind ofmindless idiot...

But he added: "Nobody is trying to be a killjoy."
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I don't see how this will make any difference. When I attend a party I make sure we have enough drink from the outset.

However, I am all for shutting up drunken yobbos who think they can make noise in the middle of the night. This happened at my pace about 6 months ago. The guy in the flat below us decided to crank his stereo up to full bore at 2 AM just after I'd gone to bed. Luckily they turned it down when my mum asked them to because I was all set to go downstairs in my daks, break open the fuse box and "borrow" their fuse for the duration of the night. If they won't turn it off, I will. Would've been even better if he'd tried to stop me...
I hate assholes who think it's their right to make noise and disturb others.

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ALBURY!!! nooooooooo
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Re: 10pm curfew on drinkers to cut violence

A big thanks goes out to the Labor party for this one!!!...:mad:

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Load of bollocks what time does what time you buy your booze at make it is more to do with the quantity you drink if anything it will just piss people off. Another thing is I know young people if they can't get booze they just go off & buy other illegal drugs to get off on cause dealers work 24/7 & don't care how old you are as long as you have cash
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