220kw motor quick question - Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars
The Pub For General Discussion

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-28-02, 08:07 AM Thread Starter
Yeah .... I am here
XR8fella's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Coffs Harbour NSW
Age: 34
Posts: 751
Read 220kw motor quick question

just saw this http://www.autospeed.com/A_1194/page1.html , might have been posted before, seems a little old, but a quick query i have, is that the 220kw motor, they say is putting 136kw to the wheels. Does this seem acurate ??
XR8fella is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-28-02, 09:41 AM
Early Ford Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 277
It looks as though it might be an AUI but I'm not sure. If it is, then it only had 200 kw. Which makes the figures more accurate : 136/200= ~70% which means 30% drivetrain loss which is generally accurate.
Don't ever take Julian Edgar's articles seriously as he has some sort of chip on his shoulder with Fords. He's likely to screw the truth around so much that it seems ford was sent to earth by the devil.
Again I'm not sure on the AUI thing, because the T1-T2 models look so much the same.
Also remember that Ford claimed 220 on premium, but they were using regular.
XT500 is offline  
post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-28-02, 05:38 PM
Turbo Pilot
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Airlie Beach
Posts: 85
What a dickhead.

I can tell him exactly how many degrees of timing is pulled by the knock sensor......NONE.....the Windsor V8's don't have one, and never have.

That is why you MUST only run Premium fuel, there is no sensor to pull timing back if you want to run lower grade fuel. It even says Premium only on the back of the fuel filler flap for the terminally stupid.

What sort of idiot gets an ECU chip burnt on a car using the WRONG GRADE FUEL!! What a complete waste of time. No wonder the poor chip tuner was having problems with detonation.

I don't know what is funnier, the fact that this idiot is so stupid or that he put the story up on his web site for all to see exactly how stupid he is.

Thought it was time to try a turbo for a change :)
AZTECH is offline  
post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-28-02, 05:57 PM
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Rocklyn
Posts: 7,750

It is amazing how many people don't know there are no knock sensors.
HSE2 is offline  
post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-28-02, 07:25 PM
Australian Ford Member
ayman's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sydney
Posts: 1,442
Don't believe a word Edgar saying. He mentioned once about how quick the soarer or lexus sc400 , that old coupe dumb looking car, and how powerful it is,(I think about 189 or 179KW??). And quoted mid-low seven 0-100 for a used car testdrive. I thought it was as fast as the XR8!
The other thing is the Supra 3litre non turbo, 160KW, he said it's as fast as 7.5-8 seconds.

I testdrive both of them. And I can assure you the supra is slower than my 92 mitsubishi(well almost:), and the V8 lexus is a NOTHING absolutely NOTHING, compared to the XR8, hell a forte taxi will kick its ass!

If you like ricer, Edgar is the guy. Ford stuff, just don't worry about anything he says:)
ayman is offline  
post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-28-02, 09:16 PM
T5 Expert Operator
XR_Strider_GuY's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: 3Fb Skunk Works(JXR01 Dev)
Age: 35
Posts: 6,542
Ok, i know dyno figures vary but as a guide i'd have to disagree that a 220kw does 136kw at the wheels. Wheels done a dyno run of the TE-50 Series 1 200kw auto and made 144kw at the wheels.

Another point to remember is the Windsors really starts to show their potential after 20k on the clock.

Motor May 2001 Quote: "Believe it or not, there are actually a bunch of weirdos out there who reckon a six cylinder is the dux gutz. Bugger it: I'm one of them" :s5

AUII Late Ed XR6 HP T5 Venom- Full Tickford Body Kit, 17in Wheels, Herrod Bi-plane Spoiler, Momo Steer/Gear, T-Series Interior Options, Premium Stereo and a very light-tuned 4.0L I6

(FPV-Tickford Club of NSW Member and Co-Founding Member of 3FB Inc, Ford Forums Food Bandits)
XR_Strider_GuY is offline  
post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-29-02, 05:12 AM
Two SC 61's = trouble
ebxr8240's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Penrith,nswAus/Morrinville.NZ
Age: 62
Posts: 6,360
Well how come I get 168 rwkw from an E.B ?? What K.W you recone would be at the flywheel then?? Manual...

Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!
Tuned & maintained by "Peppertree Perfmormance". Dart block, Scat 4340 steel crank, Custom C.P pistons.Oliver rods.. Mal Wood twin plate clutch.. Twin SC61/2's,482 rwkw/ 645 rwhp..
Passengers, myocardial infarction material..
R.I.P Possum...
ebxr8240 is offline  
post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-29-02, 08:02 AM Thread Starter
Yeah .... I am here
XR8fella's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Coffs Harbour NSW
Age: 34
Posts: 751
thanks for that guys, didnt sound right to me, and i will disregard any further articles edgar puts out :)
XR8fella is offline  
Sponsored Links

  Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > Fordforums Community > The Pub
Gear in this thread - Powered by O'Reilly Auto Parts

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
0-100km in AUII 220kw XR8 with AUTO GTPChris The Pub 26 07-09-03 01:41 AM
220KW dohc v8 VS 220KW WINDSOR VS 351 max_torque The Pub 7 12-02-02 09:51 PM
NAPARM- Thread Preview Question batbo6 The Pub 5 07-23-02 03:58 AM
XR8 Retrofit 200 to 220kw? AUII XR8 General Tech 14 08-27-01 05:19 AM
220kW XR8 is here RPO83 The Pub 77 05-09-01 09:09 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome