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Old 09-18-2001, 04:18   #1 (permalink)
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The 5 Least Reliable Cars (1997 - 2000)

Well surprise surprise, this article was from The Sun Herald in the drive section written by Bill McKinnon called The scrap heap.

1. Holden Commodore VS
2. Holden Vectra
3. Holden Astra TS
4. Holden Commodore VT
5. Holden Barina SB

The article talks about reliability of different cars and km's. So for those of you who think the AU's aren't a better car than the VT heres something to think about.
Even the last of the series VS Commodore had abit of home work to do.
Must point out though the Falcons have had a few problems as well, but definitly not as bad as the Commodore.
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Holden should be proud topping the list with not one or two but five models. They are seriously a bad company in need of some serious reformation.

Having said that, big Pete Hannenberger is said to have kicked some butt there on reliability and quality. Give Holden some time and watch what happens. Ford had better get moving too - never good to let a company catch you!
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So why do they sell so well if they are all so "faulty"? asks me who's not had one problem with his Commodore.
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Question Very Strange Stats

My brother is a mechanic and works in a service/mechanical repair shop, he loves Fords but always tell me about what work he does, they work on SO many more Falcons than Dunnydores, he thinks probably about 4 or 5 to 1, he said it's rare to see a commy other than a VN or a VP. This is from a totally umbiased opinion also as I said he is a Ford man himself. I would be very interested what the problems were they are talking about with these cars thats for sure.
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So why do they sell so well if they are all so "faulty"? asks me who's not had one problem with his Commodore.
That's an easy one - backmasking and subliminal messaging in their widespread advertising :eek: :D

BTW I thought I saw you turning into Pennant Hills Rd the other day, from The Commenara (sp?), giving it some stick with a ricey Camry giving chase.. that was you wasn't it?? Couldn't see the plates!!
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Re: Very Strange Stats

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My brother is a mechanic and works in a service/mechanical repair shop, he loves Fords but always tell me about what work he does, they work on SO many more Falcons than Dunnydores, he thinks probably about 4 or 5 to 1, he said it's rare to see a commy other than a VN or a VP. This is from a totally umbiased opinion also as I said he is a Ford man himself. I would be very interested what the problems were they are talking about with these cars thats for sure.
Opposite here, we get more bogadores than falcon....
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What problems do they have?

I would like to hear what sort of problems the Dunnydores have, most of the Ford work are heads, radiators, air cons, windows, door handles, gearboxes (4 sp auto) and fuel pumps.
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I would like to hear what sort of problems the Dunnydores have, most of the Ford work are heads, radiators, air cons, windows, door handles, gearboxes (4 sp auto) and fuel pumps.
coil packs, dfi modules, hp power steer hoses, auto leaks, crank angle sensors, balancers, radiators...
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It's amazing what can be achieved with the right "Brand Image" isn't it. Holden have never sold more cars than they do now. Just makes you wonder I guess.. :rolleyes:
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Holden will deny anything!

Like the VX 300 that blew a power steering seal and filled the engine bay with fluid. My VS GTS-R did this so many times it wasn't funny. The VTs did it. And the VXs do it.

The trick is to fit an extra power steering cooler and run the fluid towards the low mark on the dipstick.

And another one. The Premium Brakes on HSVs suffered from seizing pistons. If I remember right, Motor had probs with funny pad wear on one of the press cars and HSV fobbed it off, but there's enough owners out there that know what the real problem is.

To be balanced though, the Tickford cars have their own problems but I don't want to say :eek: :D Lest the Holden boys find out!
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