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rsgerry · 09-21-2003, 05:50

Never before in my life have I written to a member of parliament or any othe jumped up, self-important gobshite, however, tonight I saw a report on 60 Minutes (a show I dont normally watch) regarding the thousands of sheep stuck on a ship in the middle of nowhere that nobody wants. Well, I have written to the minister for agriculture, warrem truss (no capitals due to no respect for the man) asking for some explanation. If you want to write to this man, here is his email address...

W.Truss.MP@aph.gov.au

Here is the email I sent him...

Dear Sir.

I am writing to you in response to an article I viewed on 60 Minutes tonight. I was wondering exactly it is you propose to do about the disgraceful situation that was described. Please don't respond with political double speak. I want to know in plain English what you are doing about Livecorp, what measures are being taken to rectify the current situation and what measures are being taken to either end the trade of livestock or improve the conditions under which these unfortunate animals are to be shipped. I would also ask like information regarding your contacts with your counterparts in the receiving countries as to what they intend to do about the abuse these animals are subject to once received.

Your earliest response to this matter will be appreciated.

If he does not get back to me with answers, my next step is to trawl websites like rotten.com and consumptionjunction.com for the bottom of the barrel offensive pictures. My reasoning is this...I am not offended by these pictures, but am by what I saw on TV tonight. He wasnt moved one bit by what was being discussed, so he mught be by pictures that turn stomachs.

I will also be contact the good people at Livecorp, the company responsible for this outrage.

There is no justification in the world for this cruelty.

Thanks for reading my rant.

EED-250 · 09-21-2003, 05:54

couldnt agree any more. some people treat animals so badly. its disgusting.

Baxle · 09-21-2003, 06:09

dont watch 60 minutes but I know were you are comming from.

The real problem in my books regarding the live export of sheep (which some a few years ago came from my father's farm) Is the fact they are exported live so the people can do their religous way of killing sheep which is not the most humane way from what I heard.

I would rather see them done here painlessly, thus more jobs and such but unfortunatly it would mean we wouldn't have a buyer for thus large $$ market to WA sheep growers.

CDAA · 09-21-2003, 06:12

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Originally Posted by rsgerry

Well, I have written to the minister for agriculture, warrem truss (no capitals due to no respect for the man) asking for some explanation.

I agree also and will forward an email as well. Things like this just leave me lost for words. The reality is some people truly believe that animals have no right to be treated with respect, including the ones we consume. I'm not a religious man, but I hope those that are responsible go to hell if there is such a place.

CDAA · 09-21-2003, 06:49

This is my letter...

Dear Sir.

As a matter of extreme concern, I am writing to you in response to a story I witnessed on 60 Minutes, 21/9/03. Can you or your office representative provide an explanation on your position regarding this barbaric act of ongoing animal cruelty? I�m an not in the habit of writing such letters, but could not sit back and do nothing while this disgraceful conduct was being carried out and seemly endorsed by your department, our Government and Livecorp.

Can you please advise of what measures are being taken to rectify the current situation? From what I have seen to date from a previous 60 Minutes story, these animals should not even be making the trip in the first place. The cruelty and abuse these animals experience, both in transport and when arriving at their destination can not be justified by any body, government or industry body. Just because these animals are bred for consumption does not justify the treatment they endure.

They say that this country was built on the back of its sheep, however what I have seen is a national disgrace.
I trust you or your office representative can provide me with a response at your earliest convenience.

flagship042 · 09-21-2003, 07:27

Didn't see the story (60 minutes these days seems to be full of shallow shitty stories) but I believe negotiations are taking place with interested parties in Indonesia to accept the shipment.

paull · 09-21-2003, 10:04

I think that this is a much bigger story than most realise. A colleague of mine used to be the Engineering Manager based in Freo who looked after the ships that carried the sheep. All in all he said that the sheep are quite well cared for whilst they are on board. Bearing in mind that if the sheep's condition deteriorates during the voyage, they then become less sale-able. The real problem is the transport from the farm to the vessel and also the transportation from the vessel to the slaughter yards when arriving at the final port.

The highest death rate generally occurs during the first few days at sea which, unfortunately, is an expected thing. Yes, the current situation here is very bad and may make some changes. However, as I alluded to above, making changes will involve primarily our primary producers which will then on-flow onto us.

We currently live in a situation whereby a product can be perfectly good but the buyer, for pure political reasons, may renege on the deal. I do not know how many of you have worked in the abbatoirs but it appears that we where simply priced out of the market to a certain point. That is, the buyers believe that they can produce the final product by doing it cheaper themselves. To do this, they have a very interesting argument.

What the governement may have to do is simply state that live export can no longer carry on and bear the consequences. I do not believe that the pollies will stand up say that the buyer's method of killing is the be all and end all of reasons as to why we are sending live animals and will not be accepted any more.

Put simply, are you prepared to lose the trade dollars (and the down turn with the primary producers) due to the loss of this market. Somehow I beleive more and more people are but it is really now in the hands of the politicians (re National and to a lesser extent the Lib's) as well as the farmers and their lobbyists (NFF - National Farmers Federation).

Put simply, I would like to think that we would be able to ensure that what is happening at sea now never happens again. However, to really stop this it is the hands of aussies, not the buyers.

Night_Lurker · 09-21-2003, 18:57

There is a story on ninemsn.com.au about it:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/National/story_38413.asp

galaxy xr8 · 09-22-2003, 04:06

I seen the 1st story that 60 min, did on this subject about a month ago and I was disgusted by the abuse and cruelty that these animal's suffer,something need's to be done about this.