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Old 01-14-2002, 23:52   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there,

Silly question #3, is the AU II XR classed as having an immobiliser fitted? In other words, is 'SmartLock' classed as a factory fitted immobiliser for insurance purposes?

Hopefully you can see what I'm getting at?

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Smartlock is a Stage 1 immobiliser, in that it only immobilises one part of the car. I've been considering something like a Brant Immobiliser (www.brant.com.au) which is a Stage 3 immobiliser. I was told I could have this work in synch with my alarm and Smartlock, using either a keypad for code entry, or a something like a mil key. I would deactivate smartlock/alarm with my regular keyapd, then disable the brant immobiliser before being able to drive the car. Nothing a genius can't override, but makes your that much harder to pinch.
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I have a three stage imobiliser because my insurance company said I had to but many places told me to just get a 2 stage as 3 is unreliable. I've got another 2 secret ones as well & a club lock & alarm. the car is parked in a locked garage with a cover over it & is usually parked in by another car so hopefully it isn't going any where. I parked it on the street one day as I was working on a friends car & some mongrel reversed into it & took off & someone else stole the gauges on the bonnet. GRRR
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Smartlock is a Stage 1 immobiliser, in that it only immobilises one part of the car. I've been considering something like a Brant Immobiliser (www.brant.com.au) which is a Stage 3 immobiliser. I was told I could have this work in synch with my alarm and Smartlock, using either a keypad for code entry, or a something like a mil key. I would deactivate smartlock/alarm with my regular keyapd, then disable the brant immobiliser before being able to drive the car. Nothing a genius can't override, but makes your that much harder to pinch.
Thanks Venom XR, I assume I won't be falsly stating that my vehicle is fitted with an immobilisor and putting Factory fitted in the details section?

How vulnerable are AUII XR's to drive-away theft? (Serious question). Is an upgrade something I should consider? I know, I know, it all comes down to acceptable risk!

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Thanks Venom XR, I assume I won't be falsly stating that my vehicle is fitted with an immobilisor and putting Factory fitted in the details section?

How vulnerable are AUII XR's to drive-away theft? (Serious question). Is an upgrade something I should consider? I know, I know, it all comes down to acceptable risk!

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Nope, you do indeed have a factory fitted immobiliser, no dramas. Just curious, what insurance mob is asking for this? Most seem to already know of the existance or lack of (and their effectiveness) when they generate their base premiums for various cars.

If someone wants your car, and they understand how to disable a Smartlock-fitted car, then your car will be reasonably easy to steal. From memory, the Brant was $395 for 3 stage immobiliser, including fitting at your location. Depends what you want to do with your car really. Some insurance mobs might discount you for upgrading the immobiliser, or if you decide to mod your car in such as way that insurance with Shannons becomes a likelihood then they will demand one anyway - Shannons specified Brant by name too. This is why i'm considering it.

I've already upgrade my immobiliser with a Sentry car alarm which integrates with Smartlock, it's painfully noisy in which case it might serve to give a wannabe thief tinnitus, rather than attract attention. Anything to help make your car more secure when it's not parked in your garage and you're not in it is good. Of course, there is always tilt-tray trucks, keys demanded at gun/knife point if they really really want your car.

On a side note, I'm having to investigate various security devices that can be used within IT system at hospitals for my job, and one I'm looking at is an i-button, which amongst various things has a finger-print sensor. Would love to build a immobiliser system that needs your finger print in order to drive away.
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Nope, you do indeed have a factory fitted immobiliser, no dramas. Just curious, what insurance mob is asking for this? Most seem to already know of the existance or lack of (and their effectiveness) when they generate their base premiums for various cars.
It's HBF, which is a WA based Health Insurance fund. They are just asking if an immobilisor is fitted and, if yes, what type.

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If someone wants your car, and they understand how to disable a Smartlock-fitted car, then your car will be reasonably easy to steal. From memory, the Brant was $395 for 3 stage immobiliser, including fitting at your location. Depends what you want to do with your car really. Some insurance mobs might discount you for upgrading the immobiliser, or if you decide to mod your car in such as way that insurance with Shannons becomes a likelihood then they will demand one anyway - Shannons specified Brant by name too. This is why i'm considering it.
I don't think I have a 'mandatory' problem yet, so I'll probably not bother with an alarm at this stage. I had one in a previous car and I reckon most people ignore 'em these days.

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I've already upgrade my immobiliser with a Sentry car alarm which integrates with Smartlock, it's painfully noisy in which case it might serve to give a wannabe thief tinnitus, rather than attract attention. Anything to help make your car more secure when it's not parked in your garage and you're not in it is good. Of course, there is always tilt-tray trucks, keys demanded at gun/knife point if they really really want your car.
Agreed, I think I may invest if a 'crooklock' type thing, may keep it a little safer while parked in the carpark during the day. I've stopped leaving it at the train station now, I reckon the $4 a day or so extra I'm paying over the train trip is worth it, plus I need the walk anyway!

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On a side note, I'm having to investigate various security devices that can be used within IT system at hospitals for my job, and one I'm looking at is an i-button, which amongst various things has a finger-print sensor. Would love to build a immobiliser system that needs your finger print in order to drive away.
Yes, that would be SO cool. I'd love to convince one of the customers I do work for to invest in a retina-scan or a fingerprint scanner for computer room access instead of those dumb pushbutton combination doors. Can you imagine it, no keys required, just put your thumb on the sensor.... Nice.
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Ahem, I think you'll find that Smartlock became Smartshield with the AUII series. Not sure exactly what changed with the new models but I know the remotes picked up a couple of new buttons.
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Yes, you are right Kon. Has lock/unlock, boot release and panic alarm buttons.
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