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Old 02-28-2003, 03:19   #1 (permalink)
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AUIII XR8 220KW Vs. BA XR8 260KW

Well i know there has be a fair bit of debate about the new XR8's times and so on but whats everyones feelings about the comparison between the 220 AUIII and the BA? I feel as though the BA kills it in looks but on the other hand that the AU3 is a strong performer when you consider the Power it has.

I know that alot of people are probarly going to say that im a dickhead for bringing this up, but i feel as though Ford hasnt really gained that much ground by implementing these new engines when you consider what times the AUIII XR8 and T Series cars were bringing.
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Old 02-28-2003, 04:12   #2 (permalink)
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I dont think Ford had 0 to100kmh and 400m times as their main priority when they designed the BA. Refinement was more of an issue. I tend to like the look of the AU11 and 111 XR front end more than the BA as it is more agressive and different than the standard Falcon. The AU XR also has a nice IRS system in it but unfortunately the front end seems noisy at low speeds in hot weather. At least mine is and from what I have read on here over the past year I am not alone. That is my only complaint of the AU XR. The AU is a better car than has been reported over the years.
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the AU XR sure had a ballsy 5.0 there which is only a fraction slower than the BA. But with all the suspension work the BA would be a treat to drive. I personally like the back of the AU XRs better than the BA XR, but the front of the BA XR is sweeeeeeeeeeet !!
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After driving both theres not one thing I like better about the AU, exceptmaybe its weight.
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When you sayb they haven't gained much ground from thew new endine remember most of the weight gain isn't from the engine so it would have been alot slower with only 220kw
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Re: AUIII XR8 220KW Vs. BA XR8 260KW

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I know that alot of people are probarly going to say that im a dickhead for bringing this up,
You took the words right out of my mouth. :s6: :s6:
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Re: AUIII XR8 220KW Vs. BA XR8 260KW

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I know that alot of people are probarly going to say that im a dickhead for bringing this up, but i feel as though Ford hasnt really gained that much ground by implementing these new engines when you consider what times the AUIII XR8 and T Series cars were bringing.
Except that the 5.4 L is a far more flexable engine in terms of power outputs and gives us the edge on paper where they will make sales.

SS Commodore: 235KW/465NM
XR8 Falcon: 260KW/500NM

Now tell me which one would you pick purely from paper specs?

And like Holdens jurassic Ecotec V6, Ford were struggling to get anymore kilowatts out of the old 5.0L reliably.

So in my opinion they have gained PLENTY of ground. Do you really think Ford could have released the all new BA with the same ageing 5.0L putting out no more than 220KW????? I think not. A) the cars would have been slugs, and B) Ford would have been the laughing stock of the motoring industry and cop the same level of flack that Holden are for the aforementioned V6.
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I dont think Ford had 0 to100kmh and 400m times as their main priority when they designed the BA. Refinement was more of an issue. I tend to like the look of the AU11 and 111 XR front end more than the BA as it is more agressive and different than the standard Falcon. The AU XR also has a nice IRS system in it but unfortunately the front end seems noisy at low speeds in hot weather. At least mine is and from what I have read on here over the past year I am not alone. That is my only complaint of the AU XR. The AU is a better car than has been reported over the years.
...and to your average buyer, are 0-100 and 400m times really that important when you get to what the XR8 puts out? Is it really going to sway your decision when it comes to picking an XR8 over, say, an SS if it's a few tenths down a strip of bitumen you'll never experience <cough> on public roads?

The looks, styling, ride, image is alot more important and the XR8 has bucketloads of at least 3 so I'm also of the opinion that Ford spent money where it needed to be spent. Series 2 will most likely be lighter so performance comparisons against the Holden counterparts will likely be more favourable.. and when the Series 2 comes out I'll consider how viable it'll be to park my ass in one. Had a series 1 EF, learnt the hard way to wait for the next series after a big model facelift.
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I think the AUIII XR8 with the Rebel bodykit and 18' Speedlines or TS50 wheels looks classier than the BA XR8 and its kit. I'm not a big fan of that rear BA end. Hopefully Ford could revise that like they did with the AU. Nothing wrong with AU I back end, just in principle. I'd be waiting for the final series to come out before I'd go out and buy on. (If I could - dream on darkhorse)
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