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Old 04-28-2004, 02:21   #1 (permalink)
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Is Australia becoming the new America?

This question is in relation to the amount of total BS civil law cases hitting the courts these days. After watching today tonight, i have seen a guy who is going to sue a few clubs because he gambled away $400 000 and he wants the money he lost back.

I am not saying that the clubs aren't a little responsible as they should be able to identify a problem gambler, although i strongly believe that people are responsible for their own actions.

It seems today that people are not willing to accept this statement and feel that everyone else should pay for their wrong doings.

Just wondering if people agree or disagree with me and looking forward for other peoples insight into this.
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Old 04-28-2004, 02:35   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

Thats the biggest load of **** i haev seen, the dood wasted his money its his own damn problem.... i so want to be a judge and tell these ppl to stick it up their **** when they have cases like this.

Its a sad society we live in when people dont want to take responsibility for their own actions

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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

It was always going to happen, just a matter of time.

In fact, there is a prime example in this very forum - i think the thread is called 'crunch!' or something, and there are suggestions that a guy should go after compo after an accident in a carpark.

Honestly, some people have very little grey matter left.
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Old 04-28-2004, 03:00   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

Yes and it's very depressing. Howard is so out of touch with the view that most Australians want to retain their own identity. I don't see why we signed up for a free trade deal with the US either, when there are plenty of other countries in the Asia pacific region we could of got a far better deal from.

To some extent it's good a consumer/citizen in america has ample legal recourse but the problem is human-kind tends to exploit this privlidge. It would be good to hear from XRChic on this as she is quite a bright lawyer.

My 2 cents worth.

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Old 04-28-2004, 03:07   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

I hope the Judge throws that out of court straight away, if that dickhead cant keep his gambling under control then its his own fault and not the fault of the gambling establishments. I hate the way anything that goes wrong seems to end in litigation now, what has the world come to?

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Old 04-28-2004, 03:26   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

In a world where we care only about getting further and further ahead at the expense of humanity, the environment and most importantly - our own health, there is no doubt we are allready the same as america.......if not worse.

We just have a smaller population in comparison.


the "i'm alright jack - screw you" attitude, has arrived - and (god forbid) it'll take a 3rd world war of full proportion to wake the world up, before anything ever changes.


Seem a little harsh?? - go camping in the middle of the desert,
when it gets dark and you have eaten, Lay down and make no noise, and stare at the stars for an hour. open your eyes, ears and senses......within that hour, you'll soon realize just what I mean.

we are mearly pimples on the arse of the universe.....

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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

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BTW nice german quote under your username Fordel
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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

I was speaking to a guy from Canada the other day and he seems to agree that its a problem all over the world. Obviously the problem is more rampant in america...but have they ever done anything in halves?
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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

Today Tonight isnt exactly the pillar of journalistic integrity.

As for being like America, well, thinking about it seriously, are we becoming more like the USA ? Or do all western countries behold a similiar sort of culture ? - Are we really just misidentifying our culture and blaming it on America.

BS Court Claims - well, you see that in the US for sure, however, we do have legislation out here to limit certain torts of claims for negligence etc in certain circumstances, we dont have the billion dollar payouts that the Yanks do. Although, our media likes to report it that way.

Liability - well, the bad news is that because of these claims increasing, the insurance companies have continued to increase their premiums, as to how much that is an excuse, Im not sure. Don't forget that Insurance companies have reinsurance too, that is, the insurance company actually has insurance itself! So, although they have some exposure, its not as bad as what you think, and the majority of Reinsurers are based in Europe.

Ive spent some time in NZ lately and I was amazed to find that this sort of insurance liability increase doesn't seem to be happening there - some of the stuff you can do in Queenstown for instance would give insurance companies a heart attack here.

As for the FTA, well, thats a bit funny there, we have been campaigning for years with an FTA with the US, this isnt so much of a Howard initiaive, its been on the books for years. However, with the increasing value of the dollar, neither the US nor Australia really looks likely to gain. Another strong criticism of the FTA is that it includes harmonisation of our Interlectual property laws with the US. This means that after a certain stage of time, our laws towards Patents, Copywrite and Interlectual proeprty will reflect the US laws, which is fairly authorative.

What is ruining our culture IMHO is the TV networks, these current affairs shows which are the TV equivalent of British Tabloids, what a load of crap, they might as well run Jerry Springer on channel 7. The amount of defamation claims that ACA, 60 Minutes and TT get must be phenominal. I know of a couple at the moment.
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Re: Is Australia becoming the new America?

Ahh yes, Today Tonight, home of the intellectual journalist.

Seriously, this is the same as the smoker suing the tobacco companies, or fat people suing Macca's -
OK, the company/casino probably should have been a little more honest, but let's face it. Anybody who does not know full well by now the dangers of gambling or eating too much fast food probably deserves to be shot anyway in order to help decontaminate the gene pool slightly.
Sadly, we seem to increasingly be living in a world of idiots and those who blame everybody else for their troubles.
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