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Adam W · 07-23-2002, 22:37

Just wondering what increases people expect across the BA range.

Taking the Ghia as an example, we know that the new IRS is around 20kg lighter than the current model. It also been said that the Ghia's rims are 3kg's (each rim) lighter than the current model, which gives a weight saving of 32kg's.

I would expect an increase in weight across the board with the base Falcon being the hardest hit, but judging by the current AU3 figures what increases do people expect.

LoverBoy · 07-23-2002, 23:53

i hope it isnt to much, hopefully the forte isnt any more than 1550kg, i bet it is more like 1600 :(

Adam W · 07-24-2002, 00:22

1600kg is a weight gain of around 50 odd kg's so that would probably be alright.
I seriously hope it hasn't stacked heaps off beef on or it will need every single one of its gained hp to get it moving.

Cobra · 07-24-2002, 05:52

power + weight = same power/weight ratio = more fuel consumption.

LoverBoy · 07-24-2002, 06:12

cobra i disagree, i dont think ford would bring out a new ford with a worser fuel economy than the previous model.

Cobra · 07-24-2002, 06:31

Im just making the point that more weight means the engine will have to pull more therefore it's working harder and fuel consumption will go up.

chevypower · 07-24-2002, 07:01

if you just want power to weight ratio get a little WRX, keep Falcons big and heavy, big heavy cars ride smoother. Remember weight reduction means less durability too.

Cobra · 07-25-2002, 03:26

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Originally posted by chevypower
if you just want power to weight ratio get a little WRX, keep Falcons big and heavy, big heavy cars ride smoother. Remember weight reduction means less durability too.

I am unaware how weight makes a cars ride smoother. As I am also unaware that weight reduction makes soemthing less durable.

I wonder if a big 3 tonne cusomline will ride smoother than a falcon.

I wonder why all these small Japanese cars are so reliable? is it becasue they are heavier than every car on the road. That's right, Corolla's and Civics weight more than falcons. Silly me!

ED Manual · 07-25-2002, 03:40

Well, yes, a 3 tonne Customline will run smoother than a falcon.

Not sure why,lol,
but
Imagine a 1 tonne car driving along a bumpy highway, it, on a big bump for instance, it doesnt soak the bump fully up but the car is thrown about a bit, where as a 2 tonne car will not be thrown around as much and the wheels and suspension appear to do more work,

Its something to do with momentum of the weight being carried forward is harder to change to an upward direction depending on that weight
(its nothing to do with having tighter springs on the small cars either, they are(on standard cars) tested to give a comfortable and a little sporty ride just like a falcon)

I know my new Accent is a jumpy little car on bumpy roads, and ive been in other little cars, like new 206, and its the same, but hop into the heavy ford, my ED, or freinds Fairlane, it just doesnt bounce around.

can anyone explain why a bit better than me?

The_RAT · 07-25-2002, 04:02

same as why people who get sick in little 10foot boats dont get sick on cruisiers? or why if a little man jumps on a big man it dont hurt so much but if the big man jumps on a small man it hurts???

hmmm go for a ride in a go kart and then for a ride in a bus... me thinks bus not so bumpy :)