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Old 03-10-2004, 00:18   #1 (permalink)
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Article from "MOTOR" March 2004

If you live in N.S.W. be afraid, be very afraid, because every Police Officer in the state has been issued with a new licence-zapping weapon.

Solicitor Chris Kalpage has already seen several cases of Officers weilding their new legal power to cancel your licence entirely at their discretion.

Basically under Section 33 of the Road Transport Act, 1999, the Commissioner of Police was given the power to suspend the licence of any driver he deemed "incompentent, reckless, or careless" for up to 14 days. He could then refer the matter to the R.T.A. and suggest the licence be suspended for a further period, possibly up to one (1) year.

In mid 2003 the Commissioner of Police in N.S.W. delegated this extrodinary power to every Officer in N.S.W.

"An Officer can catch you speeding and decide to have your licence suspended, even tho you've not been convicted yet. You can be suspended merely on an alergation," Kalpage says. "Most cops are good, but if you get the wrong one...... "In my opinion there was no need to delegate this power. It was formerly in the hands of one of the most senior public servants, but now it's availabale to any young cop on the side of the road."

I wonder if and how long it is before Q.L.D. Police introduce this?

where do you draw the line,one time you may have a nice cop the other a nazi bent cop who takes your licence cause he has the law to back him up..

dunno but i dont like this idea..
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Old 03-10-2004, 00:33   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2004, 00:57   #3 (permalink)
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Why mention it now, it was in the news last year.
This law belongs up there with a lot of other police powers including confiscation of vehicles under the "hoon laws"
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I see a big increase in the court numbers coming up - from both sides.

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I don't think that this is such a good idea. What if you get a prick of a cop? There is a purpose for a system but in this case it's going a bit over the top.
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I agree with the Idea but there must be guidelines for it, for example doing more than xkms over the limit your licence is gone on the spot or 24 hours time so you can get the car home with out leaving it in the middle of no-where
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Re: cops judge n jury now thanx to new laws :NSW:

"Why mention it now, it was in the news last year".
answer:cause its in motor magazine,still though if it was last years story, then they did it take a year ,cause they are doscile *beeps*,with the laws they have now u might as well hand over your car now...
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I agree with the Idea but there must be guidelines for it, for example doing more than xkms over the limit your licence is gone on the spot or 24 hours time so you can get the car home with out leaving it in the middle of no-where
I would have to disagree. I can't see any difference in penalty whether it starts almost immediately, or in a month when the RTA processes the fine / points - your still doing the time regardless. If you a genuinely doing something dumb, there are more than enough options for them to charge you with to fry your licence anyway.

Reckless, Dangerous driving offences are available for the officers to charge you with if they believe that you are guilty. Why do they need the powers to suspend your licence without going through a formal procedure of charging you with an offence?

It seems like its nice from the police point of view, possibly less paperwork, and you potentially don't need to provide any of the justification that formally charging someone would require.

It seems unnecessary, and (as stated) very open to abuse. And lets face it, for the really bad drivers that this is presumably (hopefully) targetting, being licenced doesn't make any difference to whether you drive or not. My mum works at TAFE in the western suburbs of Sydney - teaches adult basic literacy. It is relatively common for her students to be unlicenced and still driving. One student a couple of years ago wanted to learn to read to get his licence - he had been driving light trucks (unlicenced) as a job for the last 20 years
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Ouch! I just hope they don't introduce that over here in NZ... could get nasty
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