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Old 05-12-2004, 03:50   #1 (permalink)
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Which federal political party do you support?

I will start it off and say altho i can't vote yet, i support the liberal party as i believe they are currently doing the best job that has ever been done.

Whats your thoughts?
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Re: Which federal political party do you support?

Labor here
Better for the middle class and not monarchist.
and better for health and education.
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Legilise Marijuania party
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Re: Which federal political party do you support?

i prefer one that gave a tax cut to the childless lower class 'aussie battler' instead of the fat cats...
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i prefer one that gave a tax cut to the childless lower class 'aussie battler' instead of the fat cats...
I consider myself a battler...and having children is not a crime. I am very happy with the new budget, I get good help from it and I'm hardly a fat cat. Stop listening to the usual leftist rhetoric and just work out the sums.
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Re: Which federal political party do you support?

As much as I think they go for the rich people more than the average people, I'm liberal all the way.

I can't stand watching Labour piss money down the drain and get us into debt.
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i prefer one that gave a tax cut to the childless lower class 'aussie battler' instead of the fat cats...
Fat Cats, you've gotta be joking surely. Read the article below and tell me if you still think they are fat cats. Ever heard of the brain drain, tax avoidance etc? People only pay what they feel is fair, push to hard and they push back.


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How Taxes Work....

Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that every day,
ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid
their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this. The
first four men -- the poorest -- would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1,
the sixth would pay $3, the seventh $7, the eighth $12, the ninth $18, and
the tenth man -- the richest -- would pay $59.

That's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant
every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement -- until one day, the
owner threw them a curve (in tax language a tax cut). "Since you are all
such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily
meal by $20." So now dinner for the ten only cost $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the
first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what
about the other six -- the paying customers? How could they divvy up the $20
windfall so that everyone would get his "fair share?"

The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, Then the fifth man and The sixth man
would end up being PAID to eat their meal. So the restaurant owner suggested
that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount,
and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so the fifth
man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in $2, the seventh paid $5, the eighth
paid $9, the ninth paid $12, leaving the tenth man with a bill of $52
instead of his earlier $59.

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to
eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare
their savings. "I only got a do! llar out of the $20," declared the sixth
man, but he, pointing to the tenth. "But he got $7!". "Yeah, that's right,"
exclaimed the fifth man, "I only saved a dollar, too, ........It's unfair
that he got seven times more than me!". That's true!" shouted the seventh
man, why should he get $7 back when I got only $2?" The wealthy get all the
breaks!". Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "We didn't
get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded
the tenth and beat him up.

The next night he didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate
without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered, a
little late what was very important. They were FIFTY-TWO DOLLARS short of
paying the bill! Imagine that! And that, boys and girls, journalists and
college instructors, is how the tax system works. The people who pay the
highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much,
attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table
anymore. Where would that leave the rest? Unfortunately, most taxing
authorities anywhere cannot seem to grasp this rather straight-forward
logic!
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I consider myself a battler...and having children is not a crime. I am very happy with the new budget, I get good help from it and I'm hardly a fat cat. Stop listening to the usual leftist rhetoric and just work out the sums.
I make up my own opinions thankyou... and I dont remember saying that having children was a crime either.

I can honestly say that this budget will effect me in no way whatsoever, and I should point out I was being an alarmist. middle class people will also be affected - I understand that.

I fully support the budget supporting familys...however I dont agree that the low income, no children, trying to make it on there own section of the economy get shafted. Its amazing what a couple of dollars a week will do.
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It is amazing what a couple of dollars will do, especially when I pay a regular wage in tax every month. I just hate it when everyone wants to help the battler but no one gives a crap about the people who have worked very hard to get ahead and are paying tax through the nose for it. Personally I hate tax too, I'd be all for a nice flat rate! Now thats fair isnt it?
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Personally I'm quite happy with the budget changes.
I don't have kids now but I will in a few years time and when I do it's nice to know I'll get a little help.
It's great news for my mate with 3 kids and my other mate with 2.
The Government uses the budget to push people where it wants them to go.
At the moment the population simply isn't producing enough kids because it's just to hard and expensive.
I have nothing but the utmost respect for the single income families out there making sure they raise their kids right. The middle income and high income earners are the ones that move the country forward.

Now I know lots of low income earners will bitch and I also know the media and all the other gutless wonder parties will jump about it but the fact is that Australian middle/high income earners are taxed more than most any other country in the world while we pay the 2nd highest minimum wage on the planet.

So I say good on ya liberals. They've been running the joint for a while but thanks to them we have a steady economy, low rates, low unemployment.
Of course we now also have a lot of now private services that are complete messes and the joke that is our health system but need to take the good with the bad..

Of course I'm glad Latham came along because it's decent competition that makes people put it on the line.
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