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Old 05-23-2003, 05:35   #1 (permalink)
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finally some balance to $peed camera debate

something in todays west australian newspaper today from a group calling themselves 'Citizens Against Misuse of Speed Cameras'. they claim to be seeking a balance between speed camera revenue and other forms of law enforcement. they dont claim to be against cameras, they just want to see some balance in the whole debacle that has become speed limit enforcement.

the group are in the process of going through the legal hassle of setting up, but it sounds promising.

maybe some of the boys on the east coast may look at this group and decide on something similar.

to our lovely police minister...
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Old 05-23-2003, 07:37   #2 (permalink)
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There's a few of these type of groups about, this is another

RSLIP Raise Speed Limits In Perth

They all have good points, but don't hit the nail on the head by saying speed cameras only do one thing, raise revenue. They don't deter people from speeding and they place them in places that will return maximum revenue, instead of places that need then the most, like country roads.

On another note, I sent an email off to the Office of Road Safety a few weeks back asking if WA is looking into these new "Anti-hoon" laws, I got my reply today and the last two sentences sum it up....
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The review will include a comparison of penalties of the same or similar offences in other Staes and Territories. Vehicle impounding for dangerous and reckless offences will be considered as part of thie review.
I love how they word it, if they impounded cars for dangerous and reckless driving, 3/4 of Perth cars will be taken off our roads in the first day

Anyway, expect a group of us to be showing up at a car club meeting near you to get a partition going.
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Whoops... Down the road from my house. A mate in Argentina certifies this as 100% "branca".
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Beautiful. Should be more of it!!
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hahahaha burnt well was prety hot by the look the bushes are burnt too hahahaha must of been a short circut
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Something about the spelling on the "evidence" appealed to me...
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so how u get the pics? as im sure no law abideing joe would do somthing like that must of been kids
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once the government is getting enough money to be able to budget for the increases in fines over a year you can bet the b@stards won;t let go easily
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As for the pics... It was a feel-good photo opportunity going begging. I'll take a couple of current ones this arvo.

Worth noting some overseas experiences: Various US States budgeted on increases in the camera revenue, but people began to slow down. As the cameras were operated by companies like Lockheed US on a profit-share basis, the sh!t hit the fan when their income dropped; they sued for contract renegotiation; the cities and towns lowered the speed limits in response - more fines.

Similar problems have been reported there with red-light cameras - people obeying the signals more. I have heard of successful challenges to red-light fines in the US, based on Constitutional rights infringement. Unfortunately, our Constitution is not so fair to us.

The next generation of cameras is pretty scary. Fully digital red light cameras with real-time feed to a database; they also sense speed if someone runs the orange. (Needless to say, they have interference detection.) Even more chance of getting nicked. Combine that with the "averaging" methods for prosecution of speeding and you have a good chance at being "taxed" heavily.

Advocacy groups that succeed in the interim will only spur on the introduction of more sophisticated methods of fining. The Life of Brian is still a salutary lesson in small-time politics. The last political play that really succeeded (to my memory) was the "Save the Franklin" campaign that kicked out Mal Fraser's Liberals. Even though, now, are we better for it?

My prediction for the future? More people will lose their licences, but fines for unlicensed driving will be levied more often, as opposed to jailing. Fining makes money, jailing costs. Institutions are already softening us up to the idea of a lifetime in debt, and the Governments will be happy to tag along.

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