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Old 07-27-2004, 13:17   #1 (permalink)
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Ford AU to Supply Ford US?

Falcon to Fly? Australian division may provide new vehicles for Ford

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Australia's Ford Falcon: sister of the Ford Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis?

By AMY WILSON | Automotive News
(08:30 July 27, 2004)

Ford Motor Co. is looking to Australia for a plan to replace the Ford Crown Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquis.

Ford engineers are considering the rear-drive platform used for the Australian Ford Falcon to replace the Panther platform in North America. The Panther, which dates to 1978, carries the Ford Crown Victoria, the Mercury Grand Marquis and the Lincoln Town Car.

Suppliers say Ford may replace the Crown Victoria and the Grand Marquis as early as the 2008 model year with cars based on the next-generation Falcon platform.

A Ford source acknowledged the study but said the plan is only in the consideration stage. Ford would have to lock this into the product cycle soon to replace the cars for the 2008 model year.

The new vehicles would be slightly smaller than the current Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis, which are popular mainly among gray-haired customers. Crown Victoria police cars have been criticized because fuel tanks have ruptured in rear-end collisions.

Ford is not considering a next-generation Town Car based on the Falcon platform, suppliers said.

But Lincoln is planning a large flagship sedan that would be built off Ford's Volvo-derived D3 platform. That all-wheel-drive car would be built at Ford's Atlanta assembly plant, possibly for the 2009 model year.

Ford could decide to keep the three Panther cars alive for a longer period. The reasoning would be to "keep making money," one Ford insider said. Panther's development costs have long been paid for, making the automaker's large cars a reliable profit center.
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Old 07-27-2004, 15:39   #2 (permalink)
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I think this is really good news for US and AUS customers if It comes through. If you read any of the reviews about the XR6 over in America, the reviewers couldn't get over how much comfortable, good lucking and quick it was. Obviously in this case, the car that may go over there would be closer to a fairmont or fairlane, they are still fantastic cars and by the sounds of it, I higher quality than the Ford Sedans in america.

I'd imagine that Ford Australia would get a nice wad of cash for that, which would no doubt help production.
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Old 07-27-2004, 18:02   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Ford AU to Supply Ford US?

Its about time Ford came to their senses. They should have given them Falcon instead of the all-new Taurus back in 1993. I'm sure they would've much rather driven EBII's...
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Old 07-27-2004, 18:54   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Ford AU to Supply Ford US?

Remember guys, they're not talking about supplying either a Falcon or Fairlane to the USA in that story. They're merely quoting a "supplier" who says Ford are looking at using Ford Oz's RWD "engineering expertise" to develop the new platform for the new American large cars.

The same sort of arrangement Holden have with primary development of the new Zeta platform of VE Commode, then Buick/Pontic/GM also making and building it over there as different vehicles...
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Old 07-27-2004, 20:33   #5 (permalink)
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I think Ford OZ should look after fords lowcost mid/large sizer rwd platform. Its so critical to sales here, theres 40+ years of continous development here, and the current product is top class (atleast in comparison to anything else ford US or EU have done with RWD sedans).

Ford Australia should build the platform, design everything, then working with US engineers here, make a US varient with various changes, to be built in the USA. We have ours and they have theirs but we all work together to improve both. If Australian platforms have proved anything, you can build some completely diffrent cars off the same basic parts (ie BA verse AU, VT verse VZ, LWB, utes etc etc)

Even if the US only made a Falcon SWB varient, it would be worth it, the extra volume would make it highly profitable and improve development.

Ford Oz and US could then also supply a trickle to EU customers to fill in the lineup if needed, thus allowing EU cars like the Mondeo/Focus etc to be better designed for filling the mainstream purchases.

Then everything would be where it should be, Falcon assured, we get even better falcon, US gets a brillant RWD low cost car, europe would get something to really complete the lineup and Ford would compete like it never has in other markets like the middle east.. Everyone wins, better product, lower cost, greater synergy, more trust between OZ and US, more talent sharing between the countries, jobs, etc..

Ford US should get off its arse and get into the Falcon.

I wonder what a US falcon would differ from the AU one.. Size? engines? gearboxes? interior? handling..

I would imagine the check list for a conversion would be like this..

-Enlarge the cup holders by 50% with drill
-Remove all side support from all seating and replace with something lying on the factory floor, packing plastic is ideal
-Add three super size cup holders for the front.
-remove rear quarter, boot, light clusters, rear bumper, attach bonnet, front guards, bumper and head lights for taurus look
-Remove engine, replace with several house bricks.
-Remove shocks, leave springs
-Remove sway bars
-Unscrew or remove half of all interior screws and affixing devices
-Randomly replace metric bolts with imperial
-Stain interior some ungod ugly brown
-Remove connection for front indicators, attach to low beam head lights
-Attach low beam headlights connector to front indicators
-Attach brake light connector to rear indicator
-Attach rear indicator connector to brake light
-Sit down and watch tv for half a hour and then come back and break something
-Insert torque wrench into crevas of rear seat
-Insert squeak unit into squeak unit dash compartment, if Australian squeak unit is fitted replace with US spec squeak unit
-Unbolt steering wheel, attach steering wheel to rear view mirror control and then fit rear view mirror controls to Left passenger seat.
-Unbolt peddle box from RHS, cut whole in LHS floor/firewall, bolt up peddle box, ensuring your using the spunge grommets to remove any feeling of brake activation. If there is a clutch peddle, remove it now
-Drill two holes into centre muffler, these are speed holes, do not attempt to do this carefully.
-Randomly add Bling chrome to the outside and inside of the vechical
-Weld two huge RSJ extrustions to the underside of the car so american customer belives its a ladder chassis.
-Remove bonnet and replace with one of 352 bonnet variations
-Remove bumper and replace with 45mph bumper with built in tyrewall
-Affix some old american automotive name, like, Like Grand Crown Marquis Victoria, or Shelby Cobra.
-Remove wheels and replace with 14" steel wheels with exploding firestone snow tyres

US conversion is now complete.
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Re: Ford AU to Supply Ford US?

Would Willie Clay Ford allow it?
since he wants to squueze the last dollar out of every ancient platform
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I wonder what a US falcon would differ from the AU one.. Size? engines? gearboxes? interior? handling..

I would imagine the check list for a conversion would be like this..

-Enlarge the cup holders by 50% with drill
-Remove all side support from all seating and replace with something lying on the factory floor, packing plastic is ideal
-Add three super size cup holders for the front.
-remove rear quarter, boot, light clusters, rear bumper, attach bonnet, front guards, bumper and head lights for taurus look
-Remove engine, replace with several house bricks.
-Remove shocks, leave springs
-Remove sway bars
-Unscrew or remove half of all interior screws and affixing devices
-Randomly replace metric bolts with imperial
-Stain interior some ungod ugly brown
-Remove connection for front indicators, attach to low beam head lights
-Attach low beam headlights connector to front indicators
-Attach brake light connector to rear indicator
-Attach rear indicator connector to brake light
-Sit down and watch tv for half a hour and then come back and break something
-Insert torque wrench into crevas of rear seat
-Insert squeak unit into squeak unit dash compartment, if Australian squeak unit is fitted replace with US spec squeak unit
-Unbolt steering wheel, attach steering wheel to rear view mirror control and then fit rear view mirror controls to Left passenger seat.
-Unbolt peddle box from RHS, cut whole in LHS floor/firewall, bolt up peddle box, ensuring your using the spunge grommets to remove any feeling of brake activation. If there is a clutch peddle, remove it now
-Drill two holes into centre muffler, these are speed holes, do not attempt to do this carefully.
-Randomly add Bling chrome to the outside and inside of the vechical
-Weld two huge RSJ extrustions to the underside of the car so american customer belives its a ladder chassis.
-Remove bonnet and replace with one of 352 bonnet variations
-Remove bumper and replace with 45mph bumper with built in tyrewall
-Affix some old american automotive name, like, Like Grand Crown Marquis Victoria, or Shelby Cobra.
-Remove wheels and replace with 14" steel wheels with exploding firestone snow tyres

US conversion is now complete.
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