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New Mitsubishi Magna AWD 15 24.19%
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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-22-04, 08:43 PM Thread Starter
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Given the choice, would you buy a new AWD Magna or a new S/SS?



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MITSUBISHI’S long-awaited Magna VR-X AWD will be Australia’s first fully fledged all-wheel drive sports car when it goes on sale August 1. Or will it?
Launched last week alongside the new Lancer Evo VIII rally rocket – another major plank in the quest by beleaguered Mitsubishi Australia to reform its brand image via its off-road success – VR-X AWD will be introduced as part of a reshuffle across the Magna “sports” range.

In simplest terms, VR-X replaces VR – formerly known as Sports – as the sportiest Magna AWD, and VR is deleted from the regular, front-drive Magna range. As the new “sports” flagship across both AWD and 2WD ranges, VR-X also scores a significant pricing shift and minor cosmetic upgrade. Good news is the price goes down, by some $3600 or eight per cent for the standard VR-X (now $37,990 manual, $39,990 auto), while the auto-only VR-X AWD is $42,490 – just $500 more than its VR AWD predecessor – which lacked its VR-X bodykit, six-stacker audio, revised trim and tail-lights and leather handbrake grip.

Mitsubishi believes the more brightly coloured, more boldly badged and body-kitted VR-X AWD concept will appeal to 35 to 64 year-old Falcon XR, Commodore S/SS and Camry Sportivo buyers who also want to go around corners.
But given Mitsubishi released Australia’s first locally built AWD passenger sedan range in January 2003 – yes, the Magna AWD has been with us that long – and there are few items that separate VR AWD from VR-X AWD in the final year of the current Magna’s life, we're hoping it's not too little too late.
Mitsubishi says 200 VR-X sales per month is “very achievable”, with AWD expected to account for 40 per cent of that, or just 80 a month. Mitsu Oz’s original Magna AWD sales forecast was 300/month – 40 per cent (120
units) of which would be VR-X AWD (nee Sports AWD). More than 18 months on, potential customers may be disappointed to find the much anticipated range-topper, which was expected – along with a Ralliart Magna AWD – to appear within months of the facelifted TL/KL Magna’s August 2003 launch,
lacks its front-drive sibling’s 17-inch wheels, manual transmission and full 163kW output.

Worse still, instead of being acclaimed as Australia’s first true all-wheel drive sports car, the lacklustre performance leader of Australia’s only all-wheel drive sedan line-up will be beaten to market by HSV’s (limited edition) 270kW Coupe 4. Which begs the questions: what constitutes a sports sedan and what has Mitsubishi been doing?

Mitsubishi says development of the sportiest AWD Magna’s ride/handling deliberatelyconcentrated on bumpy and slippery surfaces and that 16-inch wheels/tyres are better suited when road surfaces deteriorate. And granted, the cost of redesigning Magna AWD’s (more circuitous) exhaust just for VR-X was always going to limit engine performance to the 159kW peak of the other AWD variants.

Cost also prevented engineering a manual transmission for VR-X AWD. VR-X AWD does, however, get wider 7.0-inch rims (10-spoke with 215/60 R16 Bridgestone Grid II rubber) even if its misses out on the 2WD VR-X’s 17x7.0-inch five-spoke alloys with 225/50 R17 tyres.

But the cash strapped Adelaide company admits prohibitive costs also indirectly prevented VR-X AWD from wearing 17-inch boots, because of the Japanese company’s stringent 12-month durability testing policy, which would have put VR-X AWD over time and over budget. For the record, both 2WD and AWD MY2004 Magna VR-Xs are distinguished by body coloured headlight bezels, a platinum coloured rear bumper insert, extended chrome exhaust outlet and other VR-X bodykit changes, including badging. Finally, an “AWD” badge appears on the back-end of Magna AWD, along with “QuadTec” and a bright “VR-X” badge opposite. An AWD decal is also located on the lower rear doors, so now at least VR-X AWD will be a little less inconspicuous.

Magna VR-X gets a grip on AWD Magna VR-X gets a grip on AWD REVISED MAGNA VR-X PRICING Mitsubishi Magna range gets a sporing shake-up as all-paw VR-X finally appears in range.

VR-X 2WD five-speed manual: $37,990
VR-X 2WD five-speed auto: $39,990
VR-X AWD five-speed auto: $42,490

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Re: Given the choice, would you buy a new AWD Magna or a new S/SS?

Between the Holden and the Mitsu I would go the Holden SS. It's a V8 nuff said

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For me i'll definitely choose a Commodore over a Magna. Putty Ford's aside i would go for a VYII SS Red 6 speed + Leather option

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Re: Given the choice, would you buy a new AWD Magna or a new S/SS?

First generation AWD, very brave.......
Look at the Laser 4WD etc....
I would wait a model but theoreticly, yeh they seem ok

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Re: Given the choice, would you buy a new AWD Magna or a new S/SS?

have owned both Holden V8 and Magna / Verada. The Magna is a lot easier to live with on a day to day basis and quality is far superior to Holdens (which is why after 30 years of Holden ownership I don't have them on my list anymore)

My Verada's have been great cars but they lack character. A black AWD VR-X would be my choice but be prepared for a huge drop in value (should be offset by big discount on sale). Avoid the sun-roof - make too much noise above 60km

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I would go for the Holden if i had to choose between those two. I just dont like the Magna at all.
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Re: Given the choice, would you buy a new AWD Magna or a new S/SS?

Holden VYII Commodore SS in black thanks. Don't ever want to set foot in another Mitsushitty Crapna unless I really truley have to.

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Re: Given the choice, would you buy a new AWD Magna or a new S/SS?

i'd try a magna. my parents have owned a vp commodore since new.. the mass of oil across our driveway is more than enough of a reason for me to avoid holdens.
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Re: Given the choice, would you buy a new AWD Magna or a new S/SS?

I'd go the SS (though a CV8 would be nicer). V8, RWD and plenty of scope for power mods... But I'd probably go with the slusher option as I can't be stuffed shifting gears.

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Re: Given the choice, would you buy a new AWD Magna or a new S/SS?

If I got the Commodore I'd have to have a sticker saying "Wish it was a Ford" on it
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