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Old 04-10-2002, 19:24   #1 (permalink)
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GM seeks to pass cost of ABS, side air bags on to consumers

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General Motors (GM) Corp would no longer offer anti-lock braking systems (ABS) and side air bags as standard features on a number of its 2003 model vehicles, the company said today.

Consumers would still be able to get the safety features on their vehicles, but they would be priced as optional extras above the vehicle sticker price, according to Jay Cooney, GM spokesman on safety issues.

The move will trim the number of GM vehicles where side air bags are a standard feature from 31 down to 10.

GM's luxury Cadillac and Saab brands, its premium Corvette and two midsize vehicles have survived the downgrade.

"We're just becoming more competitive in our offerings," said Cooney, adding that the company's own consumer research had shown that "the public doesn't know that they had ABS," in some cases.

The move is only the first - and arguably most controversial - of cost-cutting measures that will be achieved by paring back the content in vehicles, and selling that content as an upgrade at the dealership.

GM marketing spokeswoman Julie Hamp said there were more than 1,000 changes in the works, including the removal of badging on the vehicle's exterior and embroidery from floor mats.

Consumers would not save any money on the basic purchase price of a vehicle, but some of the cost savings would be channelled into improving the quality of materials used in GM vehicles, she said.
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That's been touted for a while - can't say I agree with it tho ...
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Hmmm interesting definition of "competitive".

I guess they have so many customers that it doesn't matter if a few thousand die of avoidable injuries...
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I guess they have so many customers that it doesn't matter if a few thousand die of avoidable injuries...
That's a silly comment - what about all the Falcon owners without side airbags ... is Ford responsible for never offering them?
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Sorry - but dont air bags cause a lot of injuries and deaths?

I personally have never owned a car with an airbag in it... and the only experience I have with them, is helping cutting them out after they had gone off.
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In USA there have been instances of airbags killing people (don't know the full details of why and how) but I don't think there have been any instances of this happening in Australia. The sensor things that trigger them are set differently (higher tolerance) than in USA I believe.
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i heard it was because a lot of Americans still do not wear seat belts there fore the air bag needs to go off quicker to stop them hitting sterring wheels
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Fatalities with air bags were for several reasons:
- Not wearing a seatbelt, air bags are designed for seat belt use as well, if your not wearing a seatbelt I don't know what you think your airbag is going to do, you ever tried to stop a 100Kg person traveling at 70kmph with there forhead using a 100mm thick air pillow at a brick wall? Jump out of a 8 story window with a hemoroid cusion on your head and see what happens.
- Small children would get injured/killed in a low speed impact userally not wearing seatbelts. Small children should sit in the back.
-Some tried to get around the seatbelt thing by making them inflate faster.. Hence more forceful, hence people got injured..

Air bags are good, ABS is userally good. People don't understand them. When the abs system goes off the first reaction to the shuddering peddle is to release the brake becuase something is wrong.. Dumb move. People who don't wear seatbelts or have there head right next to the dash when airbags go off are asking for trouble anyway.

In the UK they are talking about making Airbags, ABS, daytime running light compulsory.. Good if people know what they do and don't do.
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I drove a VT this morning with ABS. Gotta say the brakes where excellent except for when they locked up. A little strange that was. So I thought that maybe it doesn't have the ABS although I thought all VT's came standard with ABS.

How can GM ask ppl to pay for this??
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ABS only became std across the range in VX
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