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Old 06-07-2004, 19:59   #1 (permalink)
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Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

How are we today?

Some of you might remember this

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/1697.asp

"Motorist Bruce Josephs isnít the first person to express concern over the accuracy of radars. But he could be the first person to uncover a document which confirms his doubts. After hundreds of hours on the Internet and writing letters to the Infringement Processing Bureau, police minister and ombudsman, he finally found what he was searching for ó a copy of the police serviceís radar operation manual."

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Old 06-07-2004, 20:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

I bring your attention to the para 12.2, sub para 6. Isnt this the sole purpose of radar?
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Re: Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

They don't really follow those rules.
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Re: Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

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They don't really follow those rules.
Then you can fight it in court
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Re: Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

very interesting!!
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Old 06-07-2004, 23:38   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

hmmm. for anyone too lazy to find 12.6.6,

"Radar must not be used in any location which would engender ligitimate adverse criticism or give rise to the complain the radar is a means of government revenue."

Would this not make most fixed radar traps redundant?
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Old 06-07-2004, 23:55   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

very interesting indeed!
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Re: Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

Who is to judge what is a piece of road on which a speed camera would "engender legitimate adverse critism"

For our purposes, I would presume that a police handbook is not binding.

It may be persuasive when a judge is interpreting the legislation in relation to the offence of speeding. However, what argument can you produce from that piece of evidence anyway?

The police could produce a shitload of statistics noting how many people have been caught speeding in the area over the past x amount of months, exceeding the speed limit by an average speed which could be seen as reasonably dangerous and therefore "saving lives" and not making revenue.

Difficult to get a ruling on that basis i think. Still doesn't alter the fact that you were travelling over the speed limit, regardless of the police practice?
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Re: Good Morning Gentelmen.... NSW Radar Handbook

just outta interest, where did you get this from? it doesnt strike me as something they'd be handing out at the local station.
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This is an absolute gold find.
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