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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 05-27-02, 06:43 AM Thread Starter
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Had a ride in a 250KW straight 6 falcon today!!!

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Good feedback ChuBBz,

Now to mod the XG :oo1: or the ED:err: , or both! :s2:

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Yeah I gave him a call a while ago.. spoke to him about the DEV 5 stage on my manual EF(when I had it) and he said after the DEV 5 + a supercharger(from Croydon) I could expect a very healthy 250+ rwkW from my car!!(possibly 300kW if done right) At only 6 cylinders the power to weight ratio would be absolutely nutZ!! Only thing is I wouldn't be able to drive it till December 2002(I get of my P's). Oh well... now I don't even have the EF... but that's why I want to fit an EF motor to my XF :) <---that's supposed to be a very big smile!!
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What I wanna know is, how do they do a DEV 5, which has a big lumpy cam, then add a supercharger? A big lumpy cam counteracts a supercharger setup. Either I'm wrong, or that's a slightly different DEV 5 setup using a cam more appropriate for supercharged applications. Do they up compression for those engines? A supercharged 6 also needs that lowered, not raised!

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^^^I dont think they supercharge. Just work the tits of it.

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Ken, read Pearly's post again - carefully.

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Chubbz,

I don't deny that the Jim mocks test EF Falcon with the Dev 5 hammers.
But what i'm a few of us aren't sure of is how the Dev packages respond to different falcons particularly for the Inline 6's that are already getting figures around the 130-140kw mark.

An example would be if a stock falcon makes 107kw by adding the dev 3 packages the power is expected to increase to 140kw. Thats an increase of roughly 30kw at the wheels. But if you were to put the dev package into a falcon already making say over 130kw at the wheels i'm not sure that it will go up 160kw at the wheels.
Also another concearn for XR6 owners is the cam profile. I'm very interested too know if Jim Mock has a cam that better than the XR6.

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Sorry, at work.

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What I wanna know is, how do they do a DEV 5, which has a big lumpy cam, then add a supercharger? A big lumpy cam counteracts a supercharger setup. Either I'm wrong, or that's a slightly different DEV 5 setup using a cam more appropriate for supercharged applications. Do they up compression for those engines? A supercharged 6 also needs that lowered, not raised!
Not sure mate, but as long as they can make it happen, I'm all up for it!
With the 185kW package they had with the white EF manual though, that's already as good as the 185 of the Clubsports VS/VR(which ever), and going by the power to weight ratio, you'll leave then for dead at any lights in a (non*)standard EF. :MUha:

*they don't know that when they first see it.

BTW.. Jim Mock is not the one that would do the supercharger... they are a separate company.
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Ok, I'm was just going off your post where you quoted Jim as saying a supercharged DEV5 could yield 250-300 rwkW. Everyone knows I love my six-packs but I'm skeptical of such claims for the reasons I mentioned above.

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