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Old 10-07-2003, 23:38   #1 (permalink)
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Have Ford left us in the Dark?

Is this the end of Fords invovlment with the blue blooders?

I would like to hear some honest feedback!
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Old 10-07-2003, 23:48   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Have Ford left us in the Dark?

What exactly do you mean laminge?

Their lack of providing us with information, or their lack communication on what might be going on at Ford headquarters.

All i know is the hype has definately died down from the BA and i think its time they started on something new to get everyone going again.
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Old 10-07-2003, 23:58   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Have Ford left us in the Dark?

I probably mean an overall view

Not only Fordforums - where they have warned several users to stop posting, but also being invovled in the community

I get this feeling that now the BA has made a mark, they seem to go back on history and rest on on the product.

Its good to see Geoff's Face on telli here and there, but it seems that the Marketing department have lost the plot once again.

And now I am starting to hear some feedback from others that are telling me that even their connection with Ford is under risk.

Something has gone astry in the last 6 months.........
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Old 10-08-2003, 00:43   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Have Ford left us in the Dark?

Mate, in my opinion the forums and others like us have been used like a 2 dollar whore.

When the AU was killing them and they could use all the help and good word of mouth they could get, they were right on top of it and bending over backwards to give the loyal fans anything they could.

But now the BA is a success, the order books are full and the cash is rolling back in.

The Falcon is selling its’ arse off again, with the V8Supercars they're winning on Sundayand selling on Monday, good product light is coming from the end of the tunnel in Fiesta and hopefully Territory, FPV is selling well (despite the appalling and un-addressed problems AP and others are having), and there is just no need for the fans to spread the gospel again so people will think of the blue oval.

Why should they give a rat’s arse about us when they’re back to full capacity DESPITE what we say about quality faults and other stuff.

I also think that when they see people like you and Russ, AP & FM slagging them off over things like quality, prices of various models, resale, specifications etc that they think we should just shut up and be grateful.

Also, with the (for us good) extra publicity FordForums have received with things like the VY scoop and being quoted and named in media articles, this is now seen as a public news source, and it could be as far as they’re concerned that they don’t want any of us to know what they’re doing so we can’t post it here were the competition can freely read it.

Piss poor effort on their part I think, and hardly PR savvy, but as everyone on here knows, the Ford PR department is hardly full of savvy people (sheltered workshop would be closer to an accurate description I think).

Call me a cynic, but the only thing that surprises me in this is that some of you are surprised that it’s happening. It really is a cliché, but leopards don’t change their spots, and FoMoCo is a big monolithic corporation that does things the way it does things.

The worst part of this is that I think if it weren’t for people like Geoff Polites, it would be a lot worse, and I doubt some of the things they’ve let by and on here have sat well with others not of his mindset.

Perhaps the new PR boss they got a while ago is a part of the problem?

He certainly would have his own rigid ideas of how he wants things done, and for all we know FF maybe just an annoying fly he’d like to swat.

Whatever way you look at it, I think you can safely say that neither the stick or the carrot has worked, and the situation is likely to get worse before it ever gets better (if at all).
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Re: Have Ford left us in the Dark?

I have to say a few words, but I will bit my tongue on this one. I have spoken my piece in private to others.

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Old 10-08-2003, 01:46   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Have Ford left us in the Dark?

Please tell Lunatic.

JR you pointed out a few things that i was actually thinking about myself but couldnt put it into words as good as you have.

If Ford can see how much support the Forums generate for there product why dont they use it to their advantage?

At the end of the day what can we do about it.
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Old 10-08-2003, 04:48   #7 (permalink)
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At the end of the day what can we do about it.
5/8ths of stuff all mate. Which is why I think we should do what is in the best interests of FF.com & not worry about Ford at all. If they want to participate.. bonus.. if not.. their problem not ours..
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Re: Have Ford left us in the Dark?

Ford oz are starting to act like Hamburgler and co. (Holden)
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Re: Have Ford left us in the Dark?

Good call chucky.

Might as well go about our business and just ignore the crap thats around us like that.

JR: You've spoken some very wise words there, it's a real pity that they will only fall on deaf ears in terms of Ford Aus.
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Re: Have Ford left us in the Dark?

I started to think that they had a while back. When the BA was released we had many "insiders" on the forum (harasn, fordtechguy65, etc) happy to discuss any issues or discoveries, but now nothing.

I am hoping that they are not going to end up like Holden, desert the true loyalists. But I like chucky's way of thinking....In the end FoMoCo is just another large organisation out there to make a buck no matter how.
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