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Old 05-18-2003, 19:32   #1 (permalink)
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Holden announces - burning money!

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/CAFEC06E24506375CA256D28000E4E98

"Mr Dankesreither is the manager, product concept synthesis, at Holden Innovation. Essentially that means his group, which includes statisticians, economists and psychologists, is meant to model society's shape beyond 2015 and what our transportation needs will be. Models will also be developed to apply to export markets."

Good news for ford. Holden are now using some of the most useless people in history to design cars. Heres a joke a statistician, a economist and a psychologist meet in the street and announce they will build a car.. Harsh hmmm... But really what the hell are these people going to contribute..

The article is amazing and must have been base of some properganda material Holden sent out.. someones been using a thesaurus.. its filled it excessive jargon relating to what they are doing..

Not only that Holden seem to be so full of cash the are prepared to blow massive dollars on statisticians, economists and psychologists.. and will only get any return or proof of idea in 15-20 years time..

No doubt there is a need for more forward thinking and strategy, instead of just evolving a product each cycle. But I think this seems like a big waste of time. Not only that but its claimed as pioneering research by what kind of research??

"What we are proposing to do has never been done before - certainly not in GM - and we can't see any evidence of it anywhere else in our internet research"

Internet research? What did they search it with? Google? I know as a professional scientist, I couldn't use "internet research" as proof my work is unique..

Infact Im sure its not unique.. Im pretty sure the Bureau of statstistics do this kind of thing day in day out for the government and the public as well as provide information for the private sector..
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Old 05-18-2003, 21:44   #2 (permalink)
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LOL at internet research.... my lecturers kill me if i use websites in assignments, i am in science as well...
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LOL at internet research.... my lecturers kill me if i use websites in assignments, i am in science as well...
Hmmm that seems very strange to me. In our course as long as we can quote who is the Author, date and when the site was online we can use Internet search as our sources. Though I always use books as well to make my research look like it has been well argued and backed up. But i'm in a Computing Hippie Degree so it could be different.
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LOL at internet research.... my lecturers kill me if i use websites in assignments, i am in science as well...
That's weird. Like really weird. As Strider has said as long as the Harvard referencing system is used, shouldn't be a problem.

I'm doing a Master's program in Science & Tech, and we're actually encouraged to use a wide variety of information sources including websites.
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Yeah I do science in brissy as well, and they really don't like you using the net for sources, I suppose it is just each lecturer to there own!!
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Sounds like the perfect job to me . . . Wonder who I apply to at holden ?
It's a "Institute of the Blindingly Obvious" job.
In 10 years ( and $25 million later ), they will have concluded that people want "economical, comfortable and safe transport".

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Old 05-19-2003, 02:20   #7 (permalink)
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Your telling me they need these people to work out why commodores suck so much.

Tyres that srub after 15,000kms of normal driving, Dash bords that sqeak to no end from new. and Crap build Quality. ???
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Quotes from Hustler and Penthouse are a NO No at my uni classes too!
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Laminge, I think you will find quotes from Hustler and Penthouse are ok, its just the diagrams some have issues with!

Really, there may be some merit to using a reliable reputatable web site as a refrence, esp for very new material..

But if you were going to throw what, 20, 25 million at a project, I would expect more than a "internet research" at a attempt at finding simular or previous work done in the same field.

I think they should rename the department too "bad mistakes holden will make in the future based from bad mistakes made in the present"
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