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Old 09-11-2002, 04:51   #1 (permalink)
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Holden the bigest buyers of BARRA

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Holden will be among the first to buy a full Falcon range of cars (at an estimated cost of $250,000) so it can examine the cars more closely.

The company's executive director of sales and marketing, Ross McKenzie, said Holden was "acutely aware" that it now had a power deficit across its engine range.


"We understand the Falcon is a good car and, of course, we have to take it seriously," he said. "You can't let anyone get a foot in the door and get an edge on you. If [Ford] has a significant advantage then we must do something about it."

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Old 09-11-2002, 05:22   #2 (permalink)
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im sure every car company would do the exact same thing. how else would they gather information, cant rely on public heresy
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Yep, but this sounds like Holden are actually concerned about their product being perceived as inferior.

The worst case scenario for them is responding with a killer VY series II, which will in turn make Ford continue to improve its product.

The local industry relies on this to-and-fro competition, which is why I make a point of supporting both Holden and Ford.
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i guess they gotta get inspiration for vy2 from somewhere...
And while on the series 2 VY, just because it will get the quad cam v6, does that mean they will be better will it? More to a car than power figures and straight line speeds, which is what has been addressed in the BA.
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Do you think they will get a fleet discount??????

Maybe not..........

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VYII will see the introduction of a brand new engine, which I presume will be a world class product. The platform will still be the same, but I'd say by VE Commodore will be based on a new platform, and hopefully a new suspension setup too.
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The Auto company's have an agreement where they can buy the new releases just prior to public release and at greatly reduced prices. They're going to do it any way so makes sense to have agreements in place..
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Ford had a Camry fully disassembled and placed onto slide out boards during development of the '96 Taurus. That way you can easily look at any part of the competitor's car.

I can see it now at Holden: "Why's the camshaft up the top here? Whoa, there's two of them. Double whoa, there's two over here as well! That makes four, how the hell does this work?"
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VYII will see the introduction of a brand new engine, which I presume will be a world class product.

As stated by Holden officials at several media releases and I quote "The commodore will have the same engines until the new ones are introduced in 2007", Thats along time between VY1 and VY2
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The VY 2 Commode due September next year will not have the new V6. It will not be released until the VZ. They are stuck with what they have for a while yet. The VE will be the new platform so Holden is stuck to "evolving" the current car until then.
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