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Old 08-21-2003, 20:54   #1 (permalink)
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Question Holden's Crewman

Whilst I don't mind the idea of a sedan based dual cab (preferably the R5) I don't see how Holden can make much money out of this thing.

Surely there won't be much in the way of incremental sales as the Crewman eats into Commodore sedan (its cheaper!) and ute and Rodeo dual cab sales (this is why Geoff Polites said Ford won't do the R5).

Additionally I can't see the economics of Holden producing so many different body styles when some of the sales are going to be quite low. So far they have sedan, wagon, ute, LWB sedan, 1 tonner, coupe and crewman (I'm guessing that the Adventra won't involve any new sheet metal). This 3 more body syles than Ford (2 after Territory).

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There's almost no new enginering in the car - the rear door bits are Stato, the rear chassis is almost identical to the One tonner (bolt on)and the rest of the tub is VT/VY. It probably cost SFA to develop and it's effectively a new car in a new market. Of course it's gunna be profitable!
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Is this crewman meant to be what holden is going on about on there website where a part of the ute is missing?
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Is this crewman meant to be what holden is going on about on there website where a part of the ute is missing?
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Re: Holden's Crewman

Wouldn’t have thought the rear doors were shared (would make it a lo-o-ong vehicle if so). Also “almost identical” still costs money! Though of course if it was not expected to be profitable Holden would not be making it.

Does anyone know how long the Crewman will be? From billboard pics it appears to have a near-fullsize rear tub (6 foot) as well as the crew cab. If this is so it must be at least 50-60cm longer than the normal ute/1 tonner, which would mean it won’t fit in a normal car park. That would have to reduce appeal drastically.
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I have mentioned this before, Holden have adapted new technology using laser cutting systems. This allows the modfication of existing panels without the heavy expense of new tooling. They are able to design around this ensuring that low volume models are quite profitable. It is the way to go as hard tooling as we all know is an expensive exercise.
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Re: Holden's Crewman

According to yesterday's Australian it is 5.3 metres long. It has a similar monocoque/hybrid chassis to the 1 tonner but obviously in different proportions (including live axle and leaf springs). The rear door is neither statesman or wagon. In the photo it looks pretty good.

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pics here guys...
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