WINGED

I dont want to know what people know about the car i want to know what they think and hope it is going to be.

I will be selling my car soon and having a break from an xr for a bit but i have plans to buy an AV xr8 but am a bit worried about buying the first run.How long will i have to wait for series 2 or do you think S1 will be fine.

How good do you think this car is going to be.

I hope i dont regret selling the EL.

Rastus

I'm hoping it'll be OK, as that's what I'm planning to get.
One thing's for sure, this time next year, we'll all know!
Russell.

WINGED

OK, does not really get my blood pumping i want it to be the best ever.
I hope there are flared guards on it like the EA onwards they look tough.

Mr Sparkle

It can't afford to be a lemon because there's too much riding on it, and there's been a hell of a lot of money spent on it, so all in all I'm banking on the fact that all AV's from S1 onwards will be fine.

Ok, what I hope it's gonna bring :

* Improvements in performance and economy from new donks
* Improvements in refinement and build from new materials / structures
* Stunning new looks
* Fresh new touches to interior / exterior (wheels etc)
* A final revelation of truth for those misled by the Dark Side



Anyone in the market for a sweet EL2XR8 manual in a few months time?? :s6: :s6:

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Mr Jucy

I woundn't worry to much about the quality Ford has too much riding on it also it is just an update like ED to EF not a new car like XF to EA

HSE2

Ok I reckon it will be fine but despite the claims of any manufacturer I am yet to see a series one car come out of the box and not have the problems that will require going back to dealerships for fixs.

I have always maintained buying series two is the best way to go but it depends on the content of the changes. I broke my own rule and got the series one au, and although it probably has had the most amount of things go wrong with it, they haven't been bad and touch wood the dealership hasn't done too much damage fixing what has need to be done.

The fact is you can buy a lemon in any model. With any model release the manufacturers always claim this "model has been the most extensively tested model in history" But it never seems to matter when it gets to market. The diffs in the IRS should never made it to market, but they either had no alternative and hoped like hell no one would complain or their testing has a short fall that the deficiency in the diffs weren't detected in 2 years of development. Some cars were so bad they should never have left the factory.

You concerns about a first run of a model are a bit different to series one concerns.

With out a shadow of any doubt the cars made towards say dec 2002 will have better fit and finish. You only need to look at 98 falcons to 2001 falcons to see the difference. I don't believe the next model will be any different.

Big changes to drive lines for me will mean waiting until enough time has passed to see what problems need to be sorted. I don't like my cars being test beds for dealer training days

HO HO HO!

Although the eights are all new, the sixes are updates so should be pretty trouble free. The AV should be sweet, the modular eight s and turbo sixes should get instand street cred if they prove capable of beating gen IIIs. I wonder if the AV will get a bigger fuel tank. 68l is ok but I wouldn't complain if an 80l tank was fitted standard

FordLover

i think that the av will be the best model ever and will trample the commodore in every aspect. and the av tickfords will rule surpreme.

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Rastus

This is the way I'm looking at it, and we know how much the EF is liked in these circles.
True, EF II was an improvement in some areas over EF 1, but all in all, the EF 1 is a standout/superior package compared to the much evolved ED. So, if things go pretty much the same, then AV will be positioned at a rung a lot higher than AUIII.
Russell.

FM

Me too Sparkles.. Better fuel economy is a must IMO. Hard to do, but any saving will be a good one.
Roll on the "2002 Ford Factory Clearance sales in Dec this year!!"

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