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Old 09-19-2004, 18:30   #1 (permalink)
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HSV 6l ls2

Carpoint have pretty much confirmed that the ls2 will arrive with the hsv vz range.
Heres a link:
http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/porta...opDefault.aspx
They have a pic of the new badge which is pretty good evidence of it.
Now that hsv have the new engine what do fpv have lined up?
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Old 09-19-2004, 18:44   #2 (permalink)
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Re: HSV 6l ls2

Bugger.
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Old 09-19-2004, 18:45   #3 (permalink)
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Re: HSV 6l ls2

The alloy 6.1L engine for use in the next Ford lightning won't be in the states til 2005/6 from what I have heard.

Best we can prob hope for is a Boss edit of some sort.
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Time to boost the i6 a bit more......
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Re: HSV 6l ls2

Good on them. It is good to see they are attempting to improve their cars all the time and the competition is only going to make the Ford vehicles stronger.

Lets just hope that Ford do actually react and make the cars better.
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That's good, more cube's is allway's welcomed, mm I wonder what Ford have up their sleave's for this one.
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Old 09-19-2004, 20:15   #7 (permalink)
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If Holden chooses to give VZ a 6.0-litre last gasp, don't expect a big power boost; Mooney believes "300kW is pushing this current chassis to the limit. At some point in time you get to the point where it's not that safe."
i thought that was interesting :)
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Re: HSV 6l ls2

Ok, this may be a little dumb, but I'll ask it anyway.

Why do factory makers always say their cars are limited to such low levels of power etc. Ford were saying you can't possible get more then 250kW from that 5.6 Windsor they were making, when people in the aftermarket will get you 1000kW from said engine. Now Mooney is saying the VZ's chassis can't do more then 300kW, when people in the aftermarket feed 750kW+ through it without trouble. Why do they say these things, if they are contravined on a daily basis by small performance workshops?

Just something I've never understood properly.
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Ok, this may be a little dumb, but I'll ask it anyway.

Why do factory makers always say their cars are limited to such low levels of power etc. Ford were saying you can't possible get more then 250kW from that 5.6 Windsor they were making, when people in the aftermarket will get you 1000kW from said engine. Now Mooney is saying the VZ's chassis can't do more then 300kW, when people in the aftermarket feed 750kW+ through it without trouble. Why do they say these things, if they are contravined on a daily basis by small performance workshops?

Just something I've never understood properly.
I think alot of it has to do with marketing a product to the masses... If Joe Blow wants 750kw to go thru a chassis that was optimally designed for 300kw it his perogative and his choice when after 5 or 6 launches the rear doors dont open... Compare that to the average punter that is flat out checking the oil let alone caring about output, i think it is a safe proceedure to state the worse case senario,
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Why do factory makers always say their cars are limited to such low levels of power etc. Ford were saying you can't possible get more then 250kW from that 5.6 Windsor they were making, when people in the aftermarket will get you 1000kW from said engine.
thats probably more to do with build costs, and longterm reliability of the engine.
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