theres an EFI crossflow up for sale on E-bay, saw the link on fordsix.com's forums. Whats different about it is the fact that there is a quote from a Ford exec at the time comparing our motor to their 3.8 V6:
'I would do anything, I mean anything, to get hold of that Aussie six for our cars. By comparison, it makes our engines look like boat anchors.'
And another one, from a different guy:
' We spent $X million F!x#! on a new V6, it's bent and it still isn't half as good as that Aussie alloy thumper! What the hell are we doing here?'
Whats particularly disturbing is the fact that there have been several press releases stating that this same motor is going to replace our 4.0 inline six. I for one would not like to find out the hard way that this motor is going to be crappy. The only development it has undergone to improve its performance since the early 80s is to include a siamesed port 4 valve per cylinder head arrangement. This is the base motor in the current Mustang, a Hyundai Tiburon with an exhaust and filter can easily beat one in a straight line drag race. More importantly, the I6s are fairly indestructable compared to V6s (7 main bearings versus 4 mains), and I6s do not need an internal balance shaft in order to stay balanced (Its why the 4.0 is better than the Buick 3.8 in NVH stakes)
We've got a good thing going here guys, if youre buying a six-cylinder Falcon, insist it is fitted with an inline six!
The 3.8 V6 we may be getting is in no way related to the current one. The current one is basically a 302W with 2 cylinders chopped off. Im pretty sure the same goes for the Buick 3.8.
The new one will be DOHC, 3/4 Valve, all alloy etc
Oh and a V6 5speed Mustang run low-mid 15 stock in the US (Autos are much slower though, kinda like the Falcon), so I would find it hard to believe a Hyundai Tiburon could beat one, letalone easily doing it.....
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If the AV or later model does option a 3.8L V6, I hope they still keep the I6 as a option. That way you can let the buyers decide.
I6 is generally well liked, as much as a six can. With a turbo it would help smooth out that roughness high in the rev's and give it stomping performance.
Look how hard a time Holden had of selling the LS1 to people over the old Holden V8.. Most agree the LS1 is a excellent engine, its smooth, its alloy, its got 5.7 Litres, its came from the corrvette, its got plenty of room for more power. But people still dislike it, some for good reasons, others because of some what unfounded..
Concidering the US 3.8L V6 engines aren't well reguarded by anyone for alot of reasons, people are going to be sceptical of a new one instantly. People are afraid of unproven things.
With the effort they've done to get finally produce a twin-cam I6, why are they going V6? Are we importing these engines, or will the Geelong engine plant have to under go yet another multi-million dollar refit to produce the new engines?
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I just love my inline 6 engine under the boonet of my AU1 and has done 55,000 kilometres easily. I hate those Holden V6's
Most V6's sound terrible, with a K&N filter fitted, i find my I6 sounds like a baby v8 at anything above 3,000 revs. Sweet
Not interested in the new Falcon, may be like by the Public because it is much more conservative but i like radical, fresh designs
AV : Boxy euro styled trash
Originally posted by Venom XR With the effort they've done to get finally produce a twin-cam I6, why are they going V6? Are we importing these engines, or will the Geelong engine plant have to under go yet another multi-million dollar refit to produce the new engines?
Don't forget the DOHC was originally designed in the 80's for the EA.
The AU i6 would have required at least casting changes too, and to a lesser degree, the provision for the 2 Tickford heads (HP/VCT)
So I guess it appears that changes such as these arn't huge, and can be cost justified within a short period.
We can only hope for the sake of Aussie worker, that they do convert the engine plant when the time comes.
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