Hahaha before I get slugged with negative user reputation points, let me make it clear that I am NOT after a Commodore for myself!
My gf is after a VB-VL as her "pride & joy".
Costs up to $2000
Comes with RWC but rego optional
Six on gas (VL gas optional)
Auto/manual doesn't matter
Condition doesn't matter, just needs RWC.
The problem is, I'm having a bit of difficulty finding commos for this price with RWC! I spotted a VL wagon on gas with RWC for $2100, but its a wagon! Obviously VKs & VLs are gonna be much less likely to get for this price, but hopefully I could find a decent VC or VH for her.
Anyone here aware of any issues (non-biased I mean!) regarding Commodores? I'm aware that trimatics are hopeless, but are there specific things to watch out for? For example for an EA one obvious thing to look out for would be the amazing head gasket!
Or, instead of looking for problems, another tack would be: What would be a better model? I'll use another EA example here: For $2000 I have a choice b/w a cfi 3 speed & a mpi 4 speed... So what "model perks" should I look out for for VB-VL commos?
I know of someone in Adelaide who has a VC 308, 4 spd top loader, LPG, new rochester carby, 2 1/2 in zorst, in good running order, little rust for $1000. He used it as a tow car for his boat and he now has a 4wd to do that now. He's had the car something like 15 years so the kays are up into the low 300's. I guess its only if your interested to come to Adelaide.
i previously had a vh 202 on gas, it was a reasonobly shithouse vehicle. Lots and lots of things went wrong with this car, and as im told older model commodores from vb- vk where just plain old shithouse. Unless you can find a decent example that has been looked after. But a vh is a nice buy for around 2-3, but under that price, your just gonna get a shitbox, unless you find one that a granny owned and thats in real good nick. The main thing that was wrong with mine was piston rings, and water. It frequently lost water, and frequently lost oil. so if theres any blue smoke coming out of the tailpipe, stay away, its a fairly common problem for cars that old to have the rings fukt so im told. They are also very easy to break into, so much so that i could open my door with a paddle pop stick, and turn the ignition with a knife. You can open and start the oldies with nearly any commodore key. But a mate does have a fairly good vh 176 manual, and its seems to be goin really strong, got it for 2300. damn i have dribbled a fair load of crap hey....
talk her out of it. they're just too old and are targeted by theives. If you DO get a good condition one it'll be nicked within a week. if you put an alarm on it they'll just vandalise it out of frustration. for 20 years we've lived in our house. for 20 years no incidents with our cars (and we've had brand new fairlanes with no alarms). a bloke moved in across the road who had a VL. within a couple of months it had a moss rock through the windscreen (he had a fancy alarm). the people over the road also had a VL when they moved in. my mum found it in the morning out in the middle of the road. they'd pushed it out onto the road trying to get it started. and no, we dont live in a bad area. My best friend has a VL. he hasnt had it stolen yet, but this weekend we're going to put a chain on it to make sure the bonnet cant be opened. Its been a nightmare for him, the 5 speed gearbox died which was $1400 to fix. everything on it is ****ed, the suspension bushes, all the rubbers, all the plastic.. i could go on but i wont.
the VL was a good car for its day. its a car for restoration though, not for everyday use.
1992 DC LTD 5.0
Duel exhaust, Genie extractors, Ported E7 heads, ported lower HO inlet, 70mm maf, Underdrive Pullies
The thing that happened in all the older commodores that we have owned is the heater core bursting, so obviously check for rust and stuff in teh cooling system. The 253 is a useless motor. Just stick to the 202, there is less go and alot less economy in a 253 than there is in a 250xflow in the Falcons, but thats a different story. Basically, dont go any lower than a 202 (Avoid the crappy Starfire 4cyl Commodores like the plague)
some commodores, I consider reasonable enouggh would probably be a
-VK Berlina, they have velour interiors, some gain the EFI, which is good on those older cars, helps the economy along, major things to go wrong with electrics though, as in tail lights, power windows if you get them. Those sort of things..
-VH SL/X the slightly upmarket model, few nicetys like airconditioning and power steering. Again the economy of the carby 202 will be the downfall on this car
Basically, if she is dead set on an older Commodore, realistically you should find without too much hassle, a decent enough VC/VH, and a ok VK, and a very rough VL. SA is a good place to look for older commodores as everyone is sellin them at the moment lookin for newer cars.. haha
Hmm so VK Berlina or VH SL/X are like an XE/XF Fairmont? Her commy is gonna have to be on gas for fuel cost's sake, so I don't think a petrol carby on a 202 will be a problem (it'd be replaced with a gas one anyhoo?!? <-- Not sure on this) Yeh so I'm not looking for a shitbox, but as mentioned a stocko commodore which is in mechanically good nick. I wouldn't expect to get a good VL (good VL? There's an oxymoron!) for around the $2k mark, but I thought I'd look for one of them anyhoo just in case...
I've seen heaps of RWC VL's around for 2k...thats in Brisbane tho. House mate just sold a nice example for 3k with rego etc. It served her well for 2 years and despite her 'talented female driving skills'(haha!) she never managed to destroy it. But 2 years and absolutely no maintenance did result in a cracked head....problem is getting one unthrashed. and the crime problem barry mention, RACQ's No.1 car targeted by theives in all Aus.
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