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Old 12-18-2001, 16:19   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down ls1 woes

Has anyone been over to ls1 recently. I have not looked at this site for six months or so but there are alot of unhappy campers over there. I looked at 5 or 6 current threads on service and product quaility problems.Interesting read. Can't say i am supprised. There is also a good read on warranty claims and car club events. Holden are suggesting that this could void warranty claims even thro they freely advertise these vehilcles (hsv) as high performance vehicles and portray them in adverts on tv and magazines in this fashion.:s5
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I recall reading something about one guy being told by HSV/Holden that his motor wasn't covered by warranty because he'd been using Mobil1 oil even though it was listed in the manufacturers handbook as the preferred oil to use!
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Old 12-18-2001, 16:33   #3 (permalink)
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you can't argue with taht sort of logic.
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Old 12-18-2001, 16:57   #4 (permalink)
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Yikes! I hope the owners sort their problems out. Although it sh|ts me to tears how ALL dealer service dept treat customers these days.

A couple of Threads from LS1.com:

Service/Warrenty woes 1

Service/Warrenty woes 2

Service/Warrenty woes 3

Service/Warrenty woes 4

On a side note, it amazes me how with the problems Holden/HSV are having with the LS1 motor and quality issues (and they ain't small ones), that it is still not known to the general motoring public. If Ford Oz had these kind of problems, it would be mentioned on every TV news program and in every newspaper. :oo1:
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Old 12-18-2001, 18:36   #5 (permalink)
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Some of the guys have had an awful times with their LS1s, but then others have been trouble free, so it's a bit of a lottery. Notice in a recent thread, one quoted 'The TE50 in Motor is looking better every time I see it' or words to that effect.

Ford MUST be pro-active in customer service (and sales, we've has LS1 owners walk out without a test drive of an XR8!) to put pressure on Holden to help regain lost customers.
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Old 12-18-2001, 18:41   #6 (permalink)
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I don't know why they're complaining. According to most of the Holden people I've had the displeasure of talking to, jump up and down about how good looking their cars are (over Fords). And when they discover their 'beautiful' Holdens have style sic and no substance, they crack the shits.

Those bragging Holden people will not get any sympathy from me.
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Old 12-18-2001, 19:11   #7 (permalink)
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Do yourself another favour. When you next visit ls1.com hsv/holden, type "oil" in search bar. Get yourself ready for shock as you will find almost all the forum having some complaint about oil consumption. many use around 1-1.5 litre each service of oil,another one had that before the 10000 service!
I called my bro ,he has million k's on his au xr dash,he works in brisbane and comes to sydney alot(>150.000)on the clock now. Does your car use anyoil now?or the color of oil changes to darker?it must be!!but no,she's still as the day he bought it.

Being a ford lover, you have to learn how to live with your holden friends teazy delusions,it's very hard but get used to it, cause no one of them will confess that he done a mistake.
and things will stay that way even with barra, people love commy more than anything else in the world!for some reason!
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I know we have a fleet of Holdens at work & the lack of quality & reliability is disgusting but people just seem not to care.I do know a few of my friends with late model Commos are sworn of Holden for life now.
And it shits me too that people are so quick to jump on Fords back about niggley things yet couldn't give a toss no matter how bad Holdens are.
For a quick check of reliability go look at taxis for a day I know at least in Sydney you'll see 100 Falcons for every Commodore thats because reliability is important to them because they do so many k's & their income depends on the car working.
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Old 12-20-2001, 12:26   #9 (permalink)
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I guess it's the whole motorsport thing and as we know its been Ford's downfall since the axine fo the V8 and withdrawal from racing.

For some reason people who buy a commodore executive think they have bought themselves a V8 supercar so powerful is the race branding.

Ford however knows what it did wrong and is taking steps to correct it and the T3 and 220Kw XR8's are going to be a real turn around I think.
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