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Old 02-15-2004, 23:23   #1 (permalink)
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Smile March 'Motor' magazine - Take a speeding fine to court

Anybody read the article in the latest Motor magazine?

"How to take a speeding fine to court - and walk away a winner"

Looks like good basic information but obviously generalised a bit.
I am a good boy on the road and have only caught 1 snappy pic job (I was doing 70 and it was a 60 zone - exiting Yarra Glen towards Glenburn) and 1 by the man with a hair dryer (I was well and truly over the limit on a bike and smiled when the constable suggested 15km over the limit), never having pushed these through to court.

Has anyone tried to push their point through court on a borderline speeding issue and been successful?

A thread by state listing these experiences could prove useful for those who spend all their time on the road.
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Old 02-15-2004, 23:35   #2 (permalink)
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Re: March 'Motor' magazine - Take a speeding fine to court

I havent yet taken one to court as my first was by mobile radar, so no point contesting really and I dont mind as there was a judgement made by a real human not a machine, as to whether or not I was safe, even though I probably was still safe it was his choice to decide that I wasnt and thats fine by me.

My second was on citylink and it is currently under consideration from all the stuff-ups they have had. I am yet to see the outcome of this one. However if it comes back as one that I do have to pay, I will probably try this one out in court, as I beleive there is probably enough reasonable doubt for it to be thrown out, due to the publicised innacurrate readings from cameras, and the fact that I dont see how it is possible to check which photos were read correcdtly and which ones werent.
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Re: March 'Motor' magazine - Take a speeding fine to court

"get a lawyer". Funny how the article was bascially written by one. But some interesting ideas on "civil disobedience protesting"
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Re: March 'Motor' magazine - Take a speeding fine to court

I'll be taking mine that way. Have no idea how to go about it yet!
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Re: March 'Motor' magazine - Take a speeding fine to court

and does it end up costing you more?
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I think I'll just waste their time, clog up the courts a bit, then pay it before I have to justify myself.
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Re: March 'Motor' magazine - Take a speeding fine to court

I took one to court 3 years ago and lost, but the fine was reduced and it was well worth the effort. However, take it took court only if you feel you genuinely were not in the wrong or not in the wrong as much as they think.
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Old 02-16-2004, 04:00   #8 (permalink)
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Re: March 'Motor' magazine - Take a speeding fine to court

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I havent yet taken one to court as my first was by mobile radar, so no point contesting really and I dont mind as there was a judgement made by a real human not a machine
In the article it points out that in some states the radar systems cannot be used from a moving vehicle. The point being know the laws as well or better than those pretending to apply them.
I understand your point of view on the human vs. machine issue, however I also work with 'machines' (data acquisition) and know that when they are configured and used properly, they don't lie and are always consistent. Something that the human factor tends to have difficulty with.
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You can successfully contest a ticket. Personally I would contest my next ticket simply to have experience in a court room and there is a reasonable chance you can get it reduced or be let off and only a slight chance it can get worse. If you are so obviously in the wrong and don't know what to say to the judge then you will look pretty stupid and things may not work out for you.

But there is a defence for almost anything, thats why rich people pay slimey lawyers for.. you can be guilty, plead guilty with a explanation and get off.

You can also delay it, etc. Completely legal tactics, so you can get some points back so you don't lose your licence.

If your not prepaired to defend yourself in court then you will get walked all over..The courts are basically our last resort as citizens, from tyranny.
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Re: March 'Motor' magazine - Take a speeding fine to court

how much does it cost to take it to court? obviously if you use a lawyer its going to get pricey, but what if you defend yourself?
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