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Casper · 07-23-2003, 16:31

This is an extract from an email I received from a friend in Detroit. And yes, I have already asked him some more questions.

Working in a Ford building.

We had a Fairmont in the garage and some other Aussie car with a VVT 5.4 liter in it. I couldn't tell what it was because it was all camoflauged.
Saw some '05 Mustangs too, but they were heavily camoed. I have access to the Dearborn proving grounds too. All kinds of good stuff.

FF gets some more inside access!

Cheers,

LunaticSVT · 07-23-2003, 16:52

why not get him to sign up on here and become a member?

Casper · 07-23-2003, 17:06

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Originally Posted by LunaticSVT

why not get him to sign up on here and become a member?

I'll certainly let him know about FF. He's not a huge internet user though. See what I can do.

Cheers,

LunaticSVT · 07-23-2003, 17:11

It can not hurt. More the merrier. And if he has information that can help members then that is even better.

Regards,

John

ianmcginley · 07-23-2003, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Casper1612

We had a Fairmont in the garage and some other Aussie car with a VVT 5.4 liter in it. I couldn't tell what it was because it was all camoflauged.

Er, the 220 V8 is VCT, not VVT. Difference between the two I believe is VCT controls advance and retardation, and VVT controls period valve opening.

EG: standard Corolla = VVT-i, Variable Valve Timing, Sportivo Corolla = VVTL-i, Variable Valve Timing and Lift (greater valve clearance during opening period.

Falcon VCT (I6 or 220 V8) controls Advance and Retardation of Degrees BTDC (Before Top Dead Center) and the like. for valve openning, but the during of opening is the same (contrasted with VVT which has longer opening/closing but same timing).

I could be way off though

Aussie Falcon · 07-23-2003, 17:24

Earlier in the year Ford Aust sent about 4 BAs to the US for evaluation. As reported by go auto yesterday they have recently sent a new Fairlane. A FPV GT will be sent soon.

VH-PBC · 07-23-2003, 17:28

Possibly for exportation evaluational purposes?

Casper · 07-23-2003, 17:30

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Originally Posted by ianmcginley

Er, the 220 V8 is VCT, not VVT. Difference between the two I believe is VCT controls advance and retardation, and VVT controls period valve opening.

EG: standard Corolla = VVT-i, Variable Valve Timing, Sportivo Corolla = VVTL-i, Variable Valve Timing and Lift (greater valve clearance during opening period.

Falcon VCT (I6 or 220 V8) controls Advance and Retardation of Degrees BTDC (Before Top Dead Center) and the like. for valve openning, but the during of opening is the same (contrasted with VVT which has longer opening/closing but same timing).

I could be way off though

Yes, I was under the same impression and have asked him to check into it. I do not know of VVT being used in the 5.4 but if it is in evaluation it could be interesting - GTHO???? He did say VVT and I have asked him to confirm it is VVT not VCT. I'll just have to wait and see.

Cheers,

Casper · 07-24-2003, 14:40

The fairmont was a nice clean shape, better looking than a taurus/sable. It
had a straight six in it. The other vehicle was a car, four door sedan. I
don't think it was new, maybe '01. Someone told me it was a VVT (yes,
variable valve timing) prototype but I don't know that that person knows
what they are talking about. The '04 F-150 has vvt on the 5.4L. There are
quite a few '04 vehicles around the garage that aren't available yet. Lots
of F-150's running around since that will be the new hot product.

Edited to remome information that could get him in trouble

Cheers,

kooky · 07-24-2003, 14:52

oh my!! cant wait for the next update!!!