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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-07-02, 07:55 PM Thread Starter
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Sydney's criminals could soon be travelling in luxury. NSW police are evaluating the Mercedes-Benz Vito van among other vehicles as a possible replacement for the fleet of 300 Holden Rodeo utilities.
The $40,000 Mercedes (pictured) has been modified to carry up to four officers and four offenders. It is on trial for three weeks in Auburn and other suburbs where police are looking to replace the Rodeo with the slower, purpose-built van for general duties and prisoner transport.

Police Holden Rodeos were given more power in February 1998 – when they switched from four-cylinder to V6 engines – and a spate of crashes followed. The Rodeos were banned in April 2000 from taking part in pursuits or urgent-duty driving except in life-threatening situations.

Because of manufacturing requirements at Holden's Japanese factory, Rodeos with the bigger V6 engine had to be equipped with taller, 4WD suspension. However, this, combined with the cage fitted to the rear of the utility, adversely affected the Rodeo's stability.

At the time the V6 Rodeos were introduced, a general duties constable said: "At 140kmh they feel like a Manly ferry: they're all over the place. They've given us more power, but at the same time given us a higher centre of gravity."

A police source said yesterday: "There's nothing wrong with the standard Rodeo, but we had concerns about its stability with police cages fitted on the back."

Holden and Ford sedans used by police are fitted with sports suspension and special brakes; the Rodeo is basically a commercial vehicle fitted with a cage for prisoner transport. The police Rodeos also lack anti-lock brakes and airbags.

NSW police are also evaluating five Holden sedans equipped with a so-called safety cell, a screen behind the front seats similar to those used in taxis. The rear cushion is replaced by a plastic seat that can be hosed out and makes it difficult for prisoners to secrete contraband.

Sedans fitted with safety cells are also expected to free up police time because officers will no longer need to wait up to an hour for a caged truck to transport a prisoner. It would allow them to process offenders and get back on the road more quickly.

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-07-02, 08:28 PM
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Yeah don't evaluate a falcon ute with prisoner cage or anything
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Does seem strange they wouldn't consider a Falcon ute based solution, seem to be popular with other forces around the country (at least Vic anyway). I don't know how it works but Ford should jump into something like this (maybe team with some wort of aftermarker company) and propose a Falcon ute based vehicle.

It would rock in BA spec, can't use a blood Merc van to get anywhere fast or fit many prisoners in the back of a Commodore...

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I remember the victorian Holden Commodore 'vans' they were LETHAL (and turned out to be ...)
The weight was all in the back and all up high... tutrning them was an exercise in hope.
Funnily enough, the older ford divvy vans were much better as the were designed as vans from the beginning... but the almighty resale dollar got in their way..that and Ford stopped making them
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hey maybe they are thinking of shoving speed cameras in the back of the vans like thet do in queensland..wouldnt be the first time they go under cover to catch you out..


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Veto's are crap dad had one for about 3 months and his boss sold it because it was a hunk of junk.

Luxury my......

they are only luxury compared to say a kia van.

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It wasn't the Rodeos that were recalled to my knowledge, it was the VS Ute Divisional vans. There was a whole schmozzle about it down here in VIC.

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They are referring to NSW cops sundeep ... the Vics tried rodeos but they just sort of faded wonder why
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At work the Ford ute is "no better".Used for underground jointers [electrical]with all there heavy gear. They don't handle and DON'T stop!!!
But they'r not made for that weight over the back axles.Looks to me like the wheels should be further back. But then there is the issue of the drive shaft...The rubbers/ bush's in the rear shackles are always wearing and need relpacing..

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