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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-25-02, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
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New Supercar Scare

Can someone please explain why there isnt a Supercar scare today.
I was comparing the phase 4 specs to the new TS50 and the power and torque outputs are allmost identicle.
The only reason i can see for not having a Supercar scare is cause todays cars have better handling and air bags, but if the power of these new cars gets much higher i reckon theres going to be another Supercar scare.

Im scarred

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You are indeed "scarred".

In essence you have answered your own question but let us just do a few simple comparisons:

The last "production" GT before the Supercar scare was capable of braking from 65 mph in about 63 metres where even a base Forte will now manage 42 metres and a premium braked (not Brembos) T2 can stop from a 100 km/h in 34 metres. A big difference I would suggest.

Tyre technology has also come a long way in the intervening 30 years - the Dunlop tyres of the day were capable of generating 0.63 g of lateral adhesion compared with in excess of 0.95 today.
That's without mentioning the modern tyres greater resistance to temperature, blow out and delamination.

Finally we no longer live in an era where there is an individual who has the influence that Ralph Nader did after the publishing of "Unsafe at any Speed" which was the catalyst that created the environment that allowed the Supercar scare to happen.

It's a different world today. Undoubtedly there is some point at which legislators will again find the performance capability of modern vehicles "excessive" but that will be a little way off yet.

But hey .. it's a fun topic and who am I to deny anyone the chance to gerbil away in public.
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I think this issue hasn't been raised in the media for the reasons stated but also because today there are blanket speed limits, that did not exist in the days of the original GTHO's.
We all know that people today are much more respectful of speed limits & the governments overall caring attitude towards motorists!
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ssshhhhhhh, they havent noticed yet...dont let them know before the Barra GTHO comes out, we DO NOT want a repeat of Phase 4!!!!!

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OMG ROLLIN lol!!!! i was gonna right the exact thing!
great minds think alike :)

i checked out your car Rollin.. .doing well mate :) its Mint!!

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I think the reason why high performance cars are not a worry today is simple: in the old days, 'supercars' were within reach of the average joe, whereas these days something like an HSV GTS300 would cost the better part of 100 grand and even include a free advanced driving course for the few who can afford them...

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ssshhhhhhh, they havent noticed yet...dont let them know before the Barra GTHO comes out, we DO NOT want a repeat of Phase 4!!!!!
As above, we DON'T want another supercar scare!!!
The quieter our forums keep this the better.
Only takes one ill-thinking do-gooder to take it on board.
As Rollin says, at least wait until after the next GT / GTHO!!

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HSV GTS300 would cost the better part of 100 grand and even include a free advanced driving course for the few who can afford them...
Mate

Same thing again

having more money doesnt make you a better driver

I'm sure more of us 'average joes' are much better drivers then many people who can buy a GTS300 as a sunday car.

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Mate

Same thing again

having more money doesnt make you a better driver

I'm sure more of us 'average joes' are much better drivers then many people who can buy a GTS300 as a sunday car.

What i think he was trying to say is how many people can actually afford a 100 gran car. Less people buying them, less worry about too many being out there. Well, something like that anyway


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I dont think its the actual cars you have to worry about, its how they are portrayed within the media. And you also have to worry about Journalists who are after a scoop, but who arent talented enough, so they go making their own stories out of something thats out there on the street already.. some sort of story like the one below should be kept out of the presses At All Costs!!

http://www.fomoco.com.au/Death%20of%...upercars1.html
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