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Old 10-26-2003, 18:07   #1 (permalink)
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Not Like the Public's View is Accepted - The Truth About Intro of 50km/h Limits

Don't get me wrong - there's a good reason for 50km/h limits. It's just that in my experience some roads that are default arterials have also been posted 50 and guess where the mobile speed cameras tend to park?

Anyhow, from a Victoria Parliament report here's some facts on the introduction of 50km/h limits:

http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/rsc/speed/speed.htm

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The Municipal Association of Victoria (MAV) focused solely on the 50 km/h general urban speed limit proposal. It presented the results of a survey of councils the Association conducted in February 1994 which showed support for a 50 km/h limit from:

* Fifty Melbourne metropolitan councils (with 4 against and 3 no responses);

* Ten provincial city councils (8 against; 19 no response); and

* Nine rural councils (11 against, 91 no response).

On the basis of the survey the Association asked the Minister for Roads and Ports to adopt a staged approach to introducing a 50 km/h limit, starting in Melbourne and extending to the provincial cities and rural towns 'in line with local support'. The Association stated that a formal response had yet to be received from the Minister but informal advice indicated no change in the Government's position of not implementing a lower general urban speed limit.

/UNQUOTE/

So, there isn't widespread support so what we'll do is start it in areas where support is acceptable and then force it on everyone else.


Interestingly in the same report the Monash University Accident Research centre(MUARC) openly admits to its research being substantially funded by the RTA and Federal Office of Road Safety (FORS). Independent research I hear you ask????????
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Old 10-26-2003, 18:43   #2 (permalink)
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Can I just say this, have delt with the MAV here in Victoria, their invovlement in this issue is nothing more than a publicity stunt to get their name mentioned.

The organisation is beyond a joke, basically as good as being elected to the upper house by 5 of your mates for an eight year term!
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MUARC has always been, and will for the forseeable future be, a hypocritical joke. It's just such a comfortable and reliable relationship between them and the government isn't it... makes me sick...
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Re: Not Like the Public's View is Accepted - The Truth About Intro of 50km/h Limits

How can nearly 10 year old surveys be considered relevent, would the officials who endorsed the lower limit even still be in office?

50kmh speed limits have been in place in SA for some time now, however they only apply to non-arterial roads and back streets(in most occasions)

Unfortunately it is spreading, and many drivers now will amble at 50 everywhere they go arterial road or not.
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And while numerous bodies including the RTA/TAC/Police/MUARC have often been quoted as saying that a minimum two years of statistical data is required to draw conclusions on road safety measures, the NSW trial of 50km/h limits was cut short at SIX MONTHS whereupon the freeebies etc were rolled out to make councils adopt the change.
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Re: Not Like the Public's View is Accepted - The Truth About Intro of 50km/h Limits

When I went for my drivers licence in Canada, the instructor made the comment 'You Australians always drive too fadt on our roads'.

Their urban streets are ALL 50km/h, so it took some time to calibrate down to that speed.

But then, pedestrians have right of way EVERYWHERE in Vancouver - I've had people step out in front of me while I was driving down a main road with no lights or crossings anywherer to be seen....


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How can nearly 10 year old surveys be considered relevent, would the officials who endorsed the lower limit even still be in office?

50kmh speed limits have been in place in SA for some time now, however they only apply to non-arterial roads and back streets(in most occasions)

Unfortunately it is spreading, and many drivers now will amble at 50 everywhere they go arterial road or not.
Want to get out and about a bit more,I can think of ten arterial roads posted at 50ks.If I sat down and thought about it I could come up with a lot more.
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Like which ones taximan? I can't think of many at all and I manage to drive around about 400-500kms a week around Adelaide... Also negating that the Adelaide City Council is all 50km/h and Unley having that ridiculous 40km/h zone, they should be made to remove the 40km/h speed limit.
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All urban streets - and some really stupid non urban streets - here are 50.
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I think that the ACT has managed the speed limit thing rather well, with a couple of minor exceptions. Heck, I've even heard a sugestion that they adopt a 40km/h limit in the city, apart from Northbourne I hope. As crazy as it sounds, I actually would support it! It's not like I can do much faster when making drops anyway.
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