Porsche SUV - Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars
Ford Forum Ford Forum

» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
ยป Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > Fordforums Community > The Pub
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Auto Loans Garage Mark Forums Read Auto Escrow

The Pub For General Discussion

FordForums.com is the premier Ford Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-05-2001, 22:28   #1 (permalink)
 
Space Lord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Geelong, Australia.
Age: 40
Posts: 880
Porsche SUV

What does everyone think about a Porsche S.U.V? This is a computer mock up of the Cayenne by the way
The Cayenne will be launched in 2002. Me? I like the look and idea but it's a big risk for Porsche to take.
Comments?
Space Lord is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-05-2001, 22:35   #2 (permalink)
Rail Rider
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Cowra, NSW
Posts: 1,248
Having the turbo nose makes it look out of proportion, headlights are to big for starters...
__________________
AlbertM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2001, 22:36   #3 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Rocklyn
Posts: 7,750
Yet another one you would have to see in the flesh.
Porsche through their market research found that many of their owners also owned Range rover, Lexus ,X5 type cars, so the thinking was that if Porsche were to provide an option many buyers would jump ship and stick with with the performance manufacturer. The developemnt of this car was done with the help of VW, with them having a similar Xcross type machine but with a different look to cut down on developmental costs.
HSE2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2001, 00:49   #4 (permalink)
 
Space Lord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Geelong, Australia.
Age: 40
Posts: 880
The thing is that they (porsche) have only really ever made sportscars. Period. I think the only reason they have made this one is to jump on the whole SUV bandwagon in the U.S. which also happens to be their biggest market. Will we see a Ferrari SUV? Hell no! Not now or ever and thats the point i'm making here. Ferrari only make sportscars and thats what they are known for.
By doing the Cayenne they are doing damage to their brand image.
Space Lord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2001, 01:03   #5 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Rocklyn
Posts: 7,750
Quote:
Originally posted by Space Lord
The thing is that they (porsche) have only really ever made sportscars. Period. I think the only reason they have made this one is to jump on the whole SUV bandwagon in the U.S. which also happens to be their biggest market. Will we see a Ferrari SUV? Hell no! Not now or ever and thats the point i'm making here. Ferrari only make sportscars and thats what they are known for.
By doing the Cayenne they are doing damage to their brand image.

Porsche gave this consideration alot of thought, as did Jag. This will only hurt their image if it fails to deliver on the porsche hertiage. If it doesn't go like a shower of shite or hadle like a porsche car does.
It will be marketed as the best on road suv you can buy. If it delivers on this then it shouldn't be a mistake

These were the terms of the design brief. No compromises to the Porsche ideals.

Your point about Porsche only every making sports cars is valid but they have had alot of help from parent VW. They aslo set some very impressive bench marks. And remember they have been building 4wd sysytems for a long time

For Porsche to stay afloat they had to get into other markets. The 911 wasn't going to do the job by itself, hense the boxer and now the SUV. No question it is aimed at the Ameriacn market but to ignore what is happening in this market will cost you. Case of if you can't beat them join them!
HSE2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2001, 03:36   #6 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sydney, Oz
Age: 34
Posts: 2,631
i don't know... i really don't know... the idea hasn't grown on me at all. i know porsche would have to diversify, but i would rather see porsche sedans than porsche 4WDs. i mean, a 4 door 911 would look MAGNIFICENT if executed properly.
__________________
<p align="center"> *** just because it sells it doesn't mean it's good *** </p>
Tickford Owners Club of NSW
MrPlow2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2001, 03:50   #7 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Rocklyn
Posts: 7,750
Quote:
Originally posted by adviliax mortus
i don't know... i really don't know... the idea hasn't grown on me at all. i know porsche would have to diversify, but i would rather see porsche sedans than porsche 4WDs. i mean, a 4 door 911 would look MAGNIFICENT if executed properly.
I know what you mean, there is something about it that just isn't right isn't there.

From what I have read on the subject they gave it an awful lot of thought and paid attention to their buyers, so I guess they know what they are doing.

On the other hand Jag were looking at doing the same time prior to Ford buying Landrover. Jag owners voted a resounding no to the idea.

I guess BMW and Merc are the leaders. They both make sports cars yet no one has said the move to SUV as hurt the brand.
Ok mybe the Merc example isn't a good one.
While perhaps these two aren't in the same class as porsche in a pure sense they are still right up ther in the sports car class, with the M3, M5 E55 CLK 55 and so on.

The GT3 has to be the best car in the world for mine. I just don't see this move as being a move that will hurt that car, and the 911 is the face people see as Porsche
HSE2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2001, 04:31   #8 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sydney, Oz
Age: 34
Posts: 2,631
true, but merc and bmw are manufacturers of luxury cars and this includes some grand tourers with a sporty feel and some propper sports cars. porsche is a sports car manufacturer, and that's all they have ever done! the customers may like it, but i don't... marques like porsche, lamborghini, ferrari, maserati, aston martin, lotus, etc. should stick to the one thing they have been doing for a loooooong time, and that's making sports cars!
__________________
<p align="center"> *** just because it sells it doesn't mean it's good *** </p>
Tickford Owners Club of NSW
MrPlow2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2001, 05:01   #9 (permalink)
Mr. Embargo
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Embargoland
Posts: 3,745
If VW and especially Audi play an important part in this product it will turn out to be a very well sorted car. But I think it won't have a great deal of magic about it simply because it will not be a 'true' porsche.
__________________
*Retired.
RPO83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2001, 05:04   #10 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sydney, Oz
Age: 34
Posts: 2,631
agreed! that's exactly what i was thinking. it's simply not a true porsche...
__________________
<p align="center"> *** just because it sells it doesn't mean it's good *** </p>
Tickford Owners Club of NSW
MrPlow2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > Fordforums Community > The Pub



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ads attack Detroit automakers over gas guzzlers Stacy94PGT Ford Worldwide News 2 05-08-2003 08:48
Nurburgring record Night_Lurker The Pub 14 04-27-2003 17:15
Volvo SUV goes against the mainstream Stacy94PGT Ford Worldwide News 0 01-13-2003 07:30
Anti-SUV drive puts automakers on alert Stacy94PGT Ford Worldwide News 3 01-09-2003 11:31
Porsche Cayenne Falchoon The Pub 14 03-07-2002 16:05

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:17.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.