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Old 06-15-2002, 21:17   #1 (permalink)
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Possible Legal action against illegal strike by Ford

http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/20...X2EOITH2D.html

GP warns of possible legal action because of illegal industrial action... ABOUT TIME.
Why is it when a union gets what they want they praise the system..when they don't get what they want then they just go and strike anyway.. they want it both ways!

I say bring it on ...:
GP is shaping up as one hell of a boss for Ford Aust
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Old 06-16-2002, 01:09   #2 (permalink)
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have you ever noticed how most of the militant unions are headed by a scot or englishman? i think the problems run very deep and go back to their backgrounds.

if you look at the situation in the uk, you will find a very deeply entrenched class system. there is no such thing as conciliation, just each side belting the other as hard and for as long as they can get away with. given the nature of the british upper classes, unions had to be militant to get anything. the toffs couldnt care less.

it appears that this mentality has made it across the water and landed here.

i am not a union member, the union i could join are the biggest oxygen bandits that ever crawled (the FSU if you are interested). i neede their help once, and they squaked like little girls and left me. that aside, i still believe there is a place for unions, but the threat of industrial action shold be used only as a last resort. there are mnths of negotiation that go into wage and condition claims and the claims need to be reasonable from BOTH sides. however, where an employer is being unreasonable (and believe me...they can be very unreasonable), then withdrawal of labour is one of the few tools that employees have.

having said all of that, i dont know anything about the current dispute at ford, so the above comments are in general only.
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have you ever noticed how most of the militant unions are headed by a scot or englishman? i think the problems run very deep and go back to their backgrounds.

if you look at the situation in the uk, you will find a very deeply entrenched class system. there is no such thing as conciliation, just each side belting the other as hard and for as long as they can get away with. given the nature of the british upper classes, unions had to be militant to get anything. the toffs couldnt care less.

it appears that this mentality has made it across the water and landed here.

i am not a union member, the union i could join are the biggest oxygen bandits that ever crawled (the FSU if you are interested). i neede their help once, and they squaked like little girls and left me. that aside, i still believe there is a place for unions, but the threat of industrial action shold be used only as a last resort. there are mnths of negotiation that go into wage and condition claims and the claims need to be reasonable from BOTH sides. however, where an employer is being unreasonable (and believe me...they can be very unreasonable), then withdrawal of labour is one of the few tools that employees have.

having said all of that, i dont know anything about the current dispute at ford, so the above comments are in general only.
my Dad said the same thing about most of the leaders are from the UK (or close by)

if Ford did sue them, ten they would probally picket the front of Ford as soon as the AV goes on sale and stop any getting out!
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have you ever noticed how most of the militant unions are headed by a scot or englishman? i think the problems run very deep and go back to their backgrounds.
I was thinking the same thing.



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i am not a union member, the union i could join are the biggest oxygen bandits that ever crawled (the FSU if you are interested). i neede their help once, and they squaked like little girls and left me. that aside, i still believe there is a place for unions, but the threat of industrial action shold be used only as a last resort. there are mnths of negotiation that go into wage and condition claims and the claims need to be reasonable from BOTH sides. however, where an employer is being unreasonable (and believe me...they can be very unreasonable), then withdrawal of labour is one of the few tools that employees have.
Not wishing to be argumentive here mate but what exactly did you expect the Union to do for you if you weren't a member?? I have pretty much the same opinion of Unions as you do but I think it is a bit unfair asking them to go into bat for you if you aren't a member or you only just joined up (so they could help you).
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oops.

should have made it a bit clearer...i was a union member ayt the time i needed their help cos i believed that union membership would always be helpful if i needed them. as they didnt help, i am not going to join them, and will take every opportunity to slag them off

and i have no fear of any of them, FSU leaders, reading this cos;

1. they cant read
2. if they could, they would do f*@k all about this too

ps. FSU is the financial sector union. one of the largest and weakest unions in the country. partly due to the members not being that militant (can you imagine a mob of angry bank tellers marching down the main street of your capital city...LMAO) and two because the union do sod all...or did i mention that?
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Fair enough.

As for the FSU not being millitant enough I can relate to it. At work we have two major Unions, Australian Metalworkers Union and National Tertiary Education Union. AMWU reresented the blue collar trades staff and NTEU the white collar Academics and office staff (though office staff were welcome to join AMWU). A few years ago there was some fairly major industrial unrest over a wage claim and talks with managment were broken down etc etc so the AMWU had a meeting of their members and decided to picket all the entrances and not let in any goods or services (except grog for the Uni Bar....) while the NTEU had a meeting and decided to have bans on processing certain types of paperwork. Big deal. AMWU members went without pay while they were on the picket lines and then some of the NTEU staff complained because they were running out of photocopy paper and other "vital" supplies. Some NTEU members would try and smuggle stuff in themselves in the boot of their own cars. The pickets went on for about 6 weeks and in the end we got about half of what we were asking for beause AMWU backed down and also didn't have the support of NTEU. So basically it was all for nearly nothing.
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