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Old 08-14-2003, 06:59   #1 (permalink)
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Shock at 80,000 Service

Put my car in for it's 80,000 service today. I actually went to a new dealer for the first time and here's what they came back with.

Standard Service
Transmission Service
Transmission Fluid Flush
Transmission Extension Housing Leak
Water Pump O Ring Leak
Cooling System Flush
Front and Rear Brake Pads
Rear Rotors
Steering Rack Leak
Hole in Exhaust/Middle Muffler.

With the amount of leaks it supposedly has there should've been a bloody lake beneath the car!

I'm just surprised that all this went wrong between 70,000 and 80,000. Possible the dealer is having a lend of me.

Although, I believe the exhaust did have a leak (Westfield Shoppingtown Strikes again, I posted a thread on it) , I heard it not long back, also I noticed a few thousand ago there was grease/oil on the bottom of the floorpan beneath the front seats. Also some water/fluid beneath the car a couple of times.

I hadn't picked up anything re: the steering rack leak. It just surprised me that all this went wrong in such a short space .
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Old 08-14-2003, 08:20   #2 (permalink)
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It might be leaking now, and it will probably leak for the next 5 years and never cause you a single issue, if you plan to keep the car I would just put up with the odd single drip every few weeks, I doubt it will get any worst and I doubt very much its worth replacing just now.
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Standard Service
Transmission Service
Transmission Fluid Flush
Transmission Extension Housing Leak
Water Pump O Ring Leak
Cooling System Flush
Front and Rear Brake Pads
Rear Rotors
Steering Rack Leak
Hole in Exhaust/Middle Muffler.
If I were you, I would try to do most of these things myself.
You will get a lot of satisfaction, and once you do it once - you will be
able to do it on all your cars for the rest of your life:

Standard service = change oil & oil filter & spark plus & air filter (if required). - 20 minutes.
Transmission service = Trnasmission fluid change. - 30 minutes.
Cooling system flush - 30 minutes.
Hole in exhaust - Don't worry about it.
Brakes are a pain in the arse - I don't do them myself anymore.

To be honest, I would get the Steering leak & water pump leak fixed at any mechanic (half the price of dealership). Get the brakes done at a brakes place (half the price of a dealership). And then do the rest yourself. (You will get plenty of step by step instructions from people on these Forums where required).

PS. Don't do all the jobs at the one time, as it will cost a bit - even just for all the parts. But you'll find that the brakes will probably last you another 6-12 months if Ford service says they need replacing now!

Good luck, Jake.
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Re: Shock at 80,000 Service

I agree with BLACK XR6-VCT. Servicing it yourself is the go. The only reason I currently to take it to the dealer or mechanic to get a service is for my warranty.

My first car was a datsun 180B and I had one of those gregories workshop manuals. Boy oh boy was it a pain to fix some stuff, but at least with the book I knew how it come apart and how it should go back together. And what the parts I had left over should do

The only problem with going to a dealer is that they try to screw you to the wall with every extra you can think of. At least after you've been after a few times, they can't catch you unaware of the questions they will ask you.

If you're keen, have a look around for a workshop manual for your car. probably contact someone like repco and see if they can get them. Well worth the satisfaction of doing it yourself IMO!
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rear brake discs rotors at 80,000......how hard are you on the brakes?!! the front ones should need to be done way before the rear ones, if i were you i would check the discs to see what thickness they are. The water pump leak and the rear extension housing seal are 5 minute jobs and to be quite honest are common problems, but you really should get the coolant changed if it still has that red crap in it and change it to the good green stuff.
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I'd go the DIY route as well, as much as you'd feel comfortable doing. The worst part is that you can't even be 100% sure that they did everything they said they'd do. I used to get everything done 'professionally' but I've found it basically impossible to trust anyone, except specialists for jobs that can't be done at home.
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Old 08-17-2003, 00:39   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Shock at 80,000 Service

It has the green coolant in it.

If the water pump o-ring and extension housing seal are 5 minute jobs I'd love to know why this dealer thinks a water pump o ring takes about an hour to fit and even longer for the extension housing.

I'll check how much labour I was charged for when I'm back home.

I got the dealer to do the extension housing seal and the water pump. The brakes can be done by me or a brake shop and the exhaust can be done by an exhaust place.
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Re: Shock at 80,000 Service

Well half an hour is what it takes me.
There is a reason I do my own work, and it is called the dealer :)

That was reinforced to me the other week when I was in there looking through the wiring diagrams, casually eavesdropping on the service guy explaining why a regular service ($100 or something I think) ended up costing $2000!
Replaced shocks, this that and the other, bloody hell! Half the stuff doesn't need doing anyway. I recently looked at a car which Pedders wanted $2200 or something to fix the suspension - they wanted to charge him $460 for a new steering rack etc.
I nipped up the wheel bearings, found NOTHING wrong with the rack or the tie rod ends, and told him he needed new bushes all round and new lower balljoints - about $600 worth of parts.

Go figure.
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