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Old 02-20-2002, 17:36   #1 (permalink)
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Sick f*ck - Child porn surfer walks free

This guy ought to be in jail, throw away the key. :fmad:

A SENIOR Victorian justice department official has walked free on a suspended jail sentence after pleading guilty to child porn charges, some involving internet images of children as young as six-months-old.

Forty-five-year-old James Patrick Allan, a finance officer in the Department of Justice, was convicted in the Broadmeadows Magistrates Court on three charges of possessing child pornography and one charge of making child pornography.
It was the first time under Victorian law a person who has downloaded and stored illegal material from the internet was convicted of making child pornography.

Child welfare groups immediately attacked the leniency of the sentence, calling on the judiciary to take child abuse more seriously.

Tipped off by three teenage female burglars, police raided Allan's Sunbury home in May last year where they found more than 1600 images stored on computer and discs.

The majority of the images showed pre-pubescent children from Asia, South America and Eastern Europe - many of them between six months and four-years-old - in sexual acts.

Sentencing Allan, Magistrate Alan Spillane said the usual sentence for "such loathsome, repugnant practices" should be imprisonment.

But Justice Spillane said there were mitigating circumstances for Allan, including the loss of his public service career, his public humiliation and his guilty plea.

Allan had not directly "damaged" any young children, but noted that many of the images were of third-world children.

"If it wasn't for people like you who wallow in such perversions as these, children in the third world would be less likely to be so grossly abused," Justice Spillane said.

The six-month jail sentence suspended for 18 months handed down by Justice Spillane drew criticism from child welfare advocates who urged the courts to get tougher on child porn users.

Bernadette McMenamin, national director of End Child Prostitution, Pornography and Trafficking, said child porn viewers were "fully implicated" in child abuse as demand for internet images increased.

"What it is leading to are these industries in countries like Russia and Indonesia and in South America where children are being sexually abused to feed the (demand for) images in the first world," Ms McMenamin said.

In a separate case, Victorian Chief Magistrate Ian Gray is to sentence another public servant who browsed child porn internet sites on his office computer.

The Melbourne Magistrates Court was told 44-year-old Greville Charles Ryder, an administrative assistant in the Department of Education, Employment and Training, was caught in June last year during a random audit of employees' internet use.

Ryder later told police he would log on to the child porn sites late in the afternoon when everyone had gone home and he would often masturbate while viewing the images.

He told police he knew what he was doing was wrong, but he was experiencing personal problems with his wife and stress at work and his compulsion to view the child porn was "like a sickness", the court heard.

Ryder, of Footscray, pleaded guilty to one charge of possessing child pornography.
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James Patrick Allan of Sunbury and Greville Charles Ryder of Footscray - well, we have their full names, i guess it would be pretty easy to track them down!

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imprisonment?! castration would be more like it! death by starvation! or get a couple of large gay men and let them have some fun!
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Punishing those who view child porn on the internet doesn't do much to get rid of the real problem, which is the damage done to children to cater to this market, which didn't exist ten years ago in anything like its present form. Its like punishing drug addicts without dealing with the producers and main suppliers.

A simple solution to internet child porn would be identical laws in every country imposing such heavy penalties on anyone who operated a server carrying it that nobody would be game. There are various technical and practical arguments against this, but the harm to maybe tens of thousands of children annually is sufficiently great to justify the effort to make it work.

Trouble is, there'll always be a few countries that won't co-operate, just like various tax havens etc, so that will be the way it falls down.

A lot of other countries will turn a blind eye to it, just the way they do to child prostitution and child slavery and a lot of other exploitation and corruption in their quaint little cultures. The basic problem is, a lot of the world doesn't value human life like we do, or share our values on a lot of things. Which is what lets parents there knowingly sell their 8 year old daughter into prostitution for a few bucks, or kill their 15 year old daughter out of "honour" because she's spoken to a boy of the wrong caste.

So I suppose we just go on punishing the sad bastards that clearly have serious problems but might never touch a kid, while the real bastards who are directly harming the kids rake in the money. Just like drugs.
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you've got a good point there, but they are all the same to me. the thing is, they operate in closed rings, and the only way to become a part of it is to be a pedo**** yourself.

this stuff is booming in countries like russia because there are so many street kids, and for many of them it is the only source of income.

it will never stop...

i hope they burn in hell
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Yes it would seem to be a good idea to form global laws on child pornography. If most of the world can work together on enviromental law, then why can't the same be done for decent global laws in other areas.

However there would be no doubt countries that would not sign up to it, on the grounds of it interfering on traditional prearranged marriages and the like.

What really got me is where they worked..
"a finance officer in the Department of Justice"
"an administrative assistant in the Department of Education, Employment and Training"
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What really got me is where they worked..
"a finance officer in the Department of Justice"
"an administrative assistant in the Department of Education, Employment and Training"
The all-time winner is the ?Queensland cop some years back who ran the paedophile unit and was one himself, and was eventually discovered and charged. What hope have the kids got in those circumstances?
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often, they find jobs which will give them easy access to children, ie. primary school teachers, childcare workers, etc. they're nasty bunch... death to all peadophiles i say!
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