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Sore this ad last night and I think it sums up the commodore 100%, BUY COMMODORE COS ITS POPULAR. They can't mention any real specs to out do the Falcon so they tell people to buy it because every one loves commodores.
You've gotta look at the people who buy these cars. As much as they want them, most 19 year olds can't afford a brand new HSV. It'll be the older (late 30s+), mainly men, who have an established career and family. Most don't want something that goes fast, if they did the'd be looking into it much more than just buying whatever has the better ad. they want something to get to and from the office and take out with the family on the weekend. I'll call them Borderline yuppies.
They want something with style. Holden aren't selling the car itself to these people, the're selling the image. These guys don't need a car that does low 12 quarters to get to the office, he wants something that turns head based on looks.
Who wants performance cars? Us petrol heads. We're pretty much set in what we'd want, there wouldn't be as many fence sitters as there are in the style department. So Ford and Holden don't really market towards us. I've never seen an ad for a T series nor a GT and I can recall any for the top of the line HSVs.
I think Ford has seen where/who Holden is selling to and have picked up in a different area. The're going for the lower income earner who needs the stock standard sedan to cart the kids off to school before going to work. They don't need as much style, they certainly don't need performance, they want whatever does the job, cheaper.
Maybe I'm wrong (I don't really watch that much tv), but I see ads for upmarket Holdens and lower range Fords. Heck I didn't even know what a T series was until I came here. Yet we all knows about the HSV. Holden is selling these to these 'borderline yuppies'.
Ford isn't selling their performance cars to this group, the're leaving them to be snapped up by the hardcore performance people. I'm sure sales will pick up with the BA Falcon and come the BB, BC, whatever, they will focus marketing more towards the borderline yuppies and not the day to day family guy.
Ford is recovering from a slump with the AU, lets give them a year and see where they are. Hopefully some good V8 supercar results will change things.
Holden Sell cars because they have good marketing and medium product.
Simple as that.
Ford have a great product (and IMHO had a great product with the AU) but don't market it.
They never pronounce the achivments the car gets.
Untill they learn to harness the true power or advertising they will forever be behind Holden.
I love seeing morons carry on about the v8 super cars though.
They always look confused when you tell them it's not even a commodore and the one time the new HSVs raced a car with 50kw less and a blue oval badge they got hammered (24 hour Bathurst)
Breathe! It's only the internet....
Well, now that FPV is in charge of marketing FPV product, instead of Ford, I would hope to see a change in this.
I thought the XR6 adds were great, but havnt seen one for an XR8?
And your dead right. We are in the minority end of the market. Ford and Holden pay the bills by selling the bog stock product in its masses, to the masses.
I'm not sure if Tickford ever turned a dollar, but if they did I would imagine it to be fairly minimal.
At least now FPV can market into both segments. I often forget just how die hard, unwavering and passionate I am about the Ford product, until you discover your mate dosnt even know there is a new GT being built, let alone a wild XR range.
What they do know however is Falcons and Commodores. Let hope that "Australias most popular car" title resides on a Ford ad shortly
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