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Old 07-25-2002, 06:25   #1 (permalink)
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Question Speed camera's whats the tech info?

Received a speeding ticket from a mobil camera mounted on Warrigal rd recently. I was in the furthest lane frome the camera traveling towards the camera (Road is four lanes wide). Now there is another vehicle in the photo next lane to my right and behind. They clame i was doing 67 in a 60 zone.

i sent in a initial notice of dispute to the penalties office which they denied the disput on the ground the other vehicle was not in the field of the camera beam. My next option is court.

What I want to know is how do they determine the camera beam, does the width of the beam get grater with distance or is it a lazer rather than a radar. is it fixed on the vehicle or movable. What is the processes of setting up a camera. How do they interperate the pictures.

All responses are welcome but please state if your respone is fact or word of mouth. All info welcome.

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If it is a MOBILE speed camera that uses slant radar you are in the clear. The Australian Standard for Speed Radar states (in effect) that if another vehicle is in the FRAME (i.e. picture) the frame shall be rejected. This onus is placed on the operator at the infringement processing end of the chain.

Turn up to court with the section from the Australian Standard and a copy of the image and they will have to let you off. DO NOT disclose your defence until the final day of proceedings (i.e. you have pleaded not guilty and so a 'trial' day is set).

FYI, I have beaten a similar offence in NSW the same way.
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Here's a link to some more info that may be of use -
http://www.afp.gov.au/page.asp?ref=/...ddetection.xml
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Another link -
http://www.google.com/search?q=speed...&start=10&sa=N
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Pete,

do you know if that also applies to the Multinova type of speed camera? (IE the integral radar - camera unit mounted on a tripod) if so, you wouldnt happen to know the standard number, too..?

I got one beating down my door, and I KNOW another vehicle is in the picture. I'd rather not let them knock 1/4 off my hit points.. :p
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The Australian Standard applies to all radar based equipment. However, it does not cover LIDAR (laser) or ground loop (fixed camera) devices. Yes, I would get it and have a read. Go to their website and buy a copy online.
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Ok, after a quick search on http://www.standards.com.au, I found a standard which is of interest..

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AS 2898.2-1992 : Radar speed detection - Operational procedures
It gives an abstract of what is covered in the standard..

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Sets out procedures to be followed when using a radar device to measure the speed of a target vehicle. Guidance on training of operators and photograph evaluators is given in appendices.
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Thanks for the responses!!!!

In the middle of interperating it all but will let you know how all goes.

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On a similar topic.... Is there any material available which states your and law officers rights and responsibilities when being issued with a traffic infringement?.

For example, does the officer have to show you the speed reading before issuing fine?... things like that.
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