EXECJIM

i went to my local ford dealer for a spec booklet, and guess what??? they havent got any.

so i had a look at the dealers booklet, and checked out the things that would interest me:s6:

i asked about a V8 futura manual.....no

but they would make a V8 manual in the XT.....good

a 1600 kg tow bar on manual.....no...only on autos

i can only see this as being under engineered running gear again, i can get a 1600 kg towbar on a VT/VX manual no probs:s2:

if im wrong, can someone please explain why this is so??

BTW, if anybody wants to look at the new falcons, i saw about 20 at the finmores truck depot this morning in laverton:s2:

they look good, and there was different colours and models too.

jim

The Mighty XE

I guess we could say with a fair amount of confidence then that the manual tranny is going to be the weak link in the chain for BA, in what is an overall fantastic package!

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Organza

I think Exec and XE are being a bit tough .....

Fact is that towing a significant weight is a MAJOR job/strain for a car, even a large car like Falcon or Commodore.

Both GM and Ford both quote 1200kg capacity for their towbars on manuals ......

Perhaps you can get a bar from an aftermarket supplier and they say that you can tow 1600 kg on a manual with it, but they don't provide the warranty for the car do they?

If you are going to be towing anything in the vicinity of 1200kg or more then auto trans is the only way to go ....

SiX_iN_a_RoW

not to mention the problem with premature clutch wear when towing with a manual....you'd have to be mad to choose a manual over an Auto for towing purposes.

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Lowered EF Futura
Black Steelies ( too cheap to buy proper mags )

2002 s3 xr8

If you want to tow over 2000kg you need a auto and the right bar etc. I tow over that nearly every day of the week.

EXECJIM

mmm, well im not mad, and my last car EXEC LS1 was an auto and did a very good job, but i am buying a manual now because i want a manual, just the same as you chose your car, and the running gear and extras it has.

i only tow a trailor about 3 times a year, so i cant see the problem.

oh well, holden here i come.

2002 s3 xr8

no stop , halt, wait, hang on....holdens don,t tow as good as falcons, I know this from experience.

YuGoStaR

That's it......he's one of them now.
He is part of the Dark Side. May god have mercy on your soul.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............

hehe just kidding fellas, u pick a holen if u want, but everyone knows that falcons have always been better for towing purposes, as well as handling and reliability.

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svoghia

Ahhh u cant get a better load hauler than a falcon, Straight 6 Go and tuff ass suspension.

Organza

Execjim,

As I mentioned earlier, BOTH Holden and Ford quote a 1200 kg maximum for towing with a manual. Check their website or an owners manual to confirm this.

Without any bias here .... there are plenty of reasons why the Falcon is better suited to towing than the Commodore (manual or auto)

a. the two link IRS the Commode uses (as we know) splays inwards at the slightest hint of a load in the rear end whereas the new 5 link Control Blade IRS on Falcon always stays perpindicular to the road for maximum tyre contact.

b. anything beyond 1600 kg on a Commode requires massive modifications including coolers, brake changes, shielding and so on .... and then you've still got the splayed IRS to contend with.

If you are serious about towing .... the only way to go is an auto Falcon.