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Old 01-24-2004, 16:48   #1 (permalink)
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WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

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this is what happened around a yr ago,being new to the car scene etc i went for my first drive to bwcp (broadwater car park)with a group,of holdens (yes i know,thats my first mistake)also alot of imports etc.

anyways once down there the calais VN was sitting up my butt the whole time,then i went to go through the lane and a car came flying around so i stopped,whilst grabbing for a new gear thanx to my panick stopping,didnt put brake on and collected the front of the calais.
NOW this is what puzzles me he was only 1 maybe 2 feet off my rear end,and from a stop to 2 ft away the car would be lucky to move at more then 1 km/h (straight flat road-carpark)he pulls up 3minutes later and i come over to inspect the damage my tow ball managed to hit his plate and put a 2 inch split in front bar and bent the supports on his oil cooler we bent them back into place,i saw no leakage,and besides the split nothing else was touched.

WELL a YR nearly passes and he comes up to me in the same car park hands me a qoute
wait for it $1,460.80c(yet when i first saw he's car it had no grill a tiny dent near bonnet badge and left front light was outta whack)
my ford mates wanted to throttle him big time,he's mate says "now you seen it you have 30 days or legal action will be taken" i so wanted to throttle him so he pisses off.
any ways us ford blokes debate how such a small km/h impact with tow ball and bumper cause all this damage,this is what he's claiming for,
front bar assembly
rh and lh front headlights n indicators
fan shroud,radiator,ac condensor,oil cooler,bonnet hinges n assembly's,
radiator support
plus parts
front bar
paint for bumper
labour
all that for $1,460
he's lucky i was in a good mood or i would of shove the qoute in his BUTT
what ya think?
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Old 01-24-2004, 17:09   #2 (permalink)
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Re: WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

he hit the back of you its his fault..
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Old 01-24-2004, 17:10   #3 (permalink)
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Re: WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

get a quote yourself, pay him that
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Old 01-24-2004, 17:19   #4 (permalink)
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Re: WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

he has to follow you at a safe distance, if you have to emergency brake, and he is following to close and hits you then it's his fault.

p.s, i just asked my dad (he's in the insurance/smash repair industry) and he said that

1) he has 3 months to claim (after that tell him to f%#k off)**
2) car parks are different to the road but if he was following you too close it's his fault (tell him to f%#k off)
3) ask him to prove it. (pictures or his and your car, video of the incident, credible whitnesses)

so basically tell him to f%#k off lol.

Edit:** dad just checked his facts and said that there is no limit to how long the other guy has to claim, but he hasnt done it the right way.**
but anyway you should give him a quote for a new tow bar, after all he did run into you.
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Re: WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

AHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Mate!. This sounds like an open and shut case. He hit you? If that is the case...doesn't matter how fast or how slow you were going..he is at fault.

Get a quote for your rear damage and give him that quote instead.
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Old 01-24-2004, 17:49   #6 (permalink)
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Re: WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

sorry if i didnt explain it right.
but he was sitting 2 ft off my rear end i went to grab a gear and rolled back those 2ft and hit my tow ball on his bumper.

still he only giving me 1 qoute,which was from a mates work shop (suprise suprise)the qoute was made 04/03 and it says this qoute is only valid for 60days(so its outta date anyways)he's had a accident cant claim for it,then i came along and he's rubbing his hands trying to rip me off..
see i saw his car had no grill and slight damage before the incident,so how do i know i did the damage at all?

all that stuff is for a front end change and at 1km/h to do all that,i dont think so..
he will be lucky to get 1 cent for it,he drove the car home with no problems yet he says he's oil coolers is buggered(B.S)he's front bar i can buy 1 (i aint though) for 100 (wreckers)i dunno if i did the damage or not,we did touch i felt the slight bump,but nothing like what he's saying..
HOLDEN:just holding together.(very true).
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leglly he is still suppoosed to be 1 car length behind you. you cannot help it if you roll back.
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Re: WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

night lurker i corrected that, there isnt actually a limit on the amount of time, but after a year he's gonna have a hard time proving it

a quote from my original post
"Edit:** dad just checked his facts and said that there is no limit to how long the other guy has to claim, but he hasnt done it the right way.** "

and dad also said that the person behind is at fault (in a car park) unless the person infront is reversing.

so hoon69 did you have the car in reverse gear, or did it just roll back (im assuming it is a manual) when you grabbed a lower gear?? if it was in reverse then you are at fault if he was following you at a safe distance (which going by your posts HE WASN'T)

if the quote is only valid for 60 days (from ??/04/03)then he cant use it to claim (unless he lodged a claim within that 60 days, and if he did it's up to his insurance company to contact you/your insurance co., not him in person at a carpark lol.)
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Re: WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

Sounds all to dodgy to me, simple fact is, he was still travelling to close to you, to allow you sufficient room in the event you may roll back which you did, you might be a little to blame, in the i8nsurance companies eyes, but he is really at fault for being to close to you

Claim is out of date, tell him to F*&k off get a claim urself from a mate in the crash repair bus and give that to him, and again tell him to f&&k off
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Re: WHAT A f@%#ng joke,trying to rip me off,stupid holden driver

Bit of waffle from some of the responses.

Firstly, Hoon69 admits guilt and liability in his comment "...sorry if i didnt explain it right. But he was sitting 2 ft off my rear end i went to grab a gear and rolled back those 2ft and hit my tow ball on his bumper."

Having admitted guilt by either rolling back or engaging reverse and driving back hoon69 is responsible for any damage that occurred due to his negligence. He would be 'done' by the police for an appropriate offence and a conviction would be secured on the evidence presented - (Failutre to exercise proper control; due car and attention etc). (Statute of limitation prevents this from occurring after 12 months.)

Now, a civil matter does not require the same burdon of proof to prove who was at fault. hoon69 admits libaility as per the above comments.

The value of the damage is one that can be disputed. A crack in the bumper of most cars, VN Cdores included, is about the figure you quoted. The bumpers of most cars these days is about $700 + labour + painting + profit + carton of beer + the panel beater weekly BMW car payment etc.

Advice? Enter into some form of dispute resolution with him and wait until summonsed to the small claims tribunal. May never get that far - you never know.
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