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Old 08-26-2004, 00:05   #1 (permalink)
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Who's Standing Up for Your Rights as a Motorist?

Not the NRMA.
(nor assumedly the RACV, RACQ etc)

Yet these organisations staffed by policy makers linked to the insurance empires are responsible for at least one recent rogering of their members.

I offer the NRMA to the critical judgement of the motoring public in NSW:

In 2003 the NRMA called for submissions from members on the demerit point scheme. It asked the usual questions about whether the system was too hard to understand, was it fair, and what improvements could be made to the system.

It is now well known that many groups and individuals made representations to the NRMA suggesting a fair review of demerit points and particularly removing the excessive penalties for very minor offences that really didn't affect road safety. Some of these submissions also called for graduated licence points to better protect professionals and drivers who had an extensive blemsih free record (for example, a driver under the current scheme could lose their licence in one long weekend for one traffic stop).

Further submissions provided extensive government published data (see ATSB) that renounced double demerits as a plain failure which did not in any way save lives or reduce accidents.

The NRMA subsequently issued a submission to the NSW Government that included ONLY the submissions that matched the preferred stance of their directors. The same stuffy, old, rich and limousine riding directors that have only once driven the Pacific Highway and not much else. The head of the NRMA Mr Malcolm Turnbull has been shown to spend dramatic amounts of money on charter planes and limousines proving he never drives.

Understandably the NSW RTA and NSW Government says that the NRMA represents the motorists of NSW and along with such groups as the PCA run by Harold Scruby (what he has to do with demerit points is a question that pains many observers) the findings of the report were not surprisingly to widely increase fines, demerit points, and lay excrement on the motorists of NSW.

The only body (NMAA) that even remotely suggested a focus on positive reinforcement for drivers and a balance of penalty increases and reductions (I hear Carl Scully choking on that one) was not invited to the review. Nor were any individual submissions actively considered in the review.

So, next time you get your NRMA renewal, what will you be thinking?

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Old 08-26-2004, 01:05   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Who's Standing Up for Your Rights as a Motorist?

So, next time you get your NRMA renewal, what will you be thinking?

Might I add that NRMA Insurance & NRMA Motoring & Services aka Road Service are two separate companies.

As an NRMA employee I can certainly assure you that by not renewing your policy with NRMA Insurance you are doing no harm whatsoever to the fools in the ivory towers that work for NRMA road service.

Each company is a separate business and share prices are not affected whatsoever by doing this.

By not renewing your road service cover you may very well have an impact on their business.

I too agree that the decisions of the road service area relating to the public are not always thoroughly thought out.
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Old 08-26-2004, 02:03   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Who's Standing Up for Your Rights as a Motorist?

Likewise, the RACV have very little interest in the protection of motorists rights or effectively reducing the road toll. I am glad to announce that neither I nor any of my family members have anything to do with the RACV any longer.
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Re: Who's Standing Up for Your Rights as a Motorist?

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Likewise, the RACV have very little interest in the protection of motorists rights or effectively reducing the road toll. I am glad to announce that neither I nor any of my family members have anything to do with the RACV any longer.
I feel exactly the same way. To me, the only persons interest they are looking after is their own.

The NRMA are full of power hungry committee members that don't give a stuff about the motorist.

I'll never have anything to do with them again.
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Old 08-26-2004, 05:33   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Who's Standing Up for Your Rights as a Motorist?

We have rights??? How come no-one told me???
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Old 08-26-2004, 06:50   #7 (permalink)
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I'm sick of the NRMA I haven't had insurnace with them in years & next time my road service is up for renewal I'm switching to the MTA
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Re: Who's Standing Up for Your Rights as a Motorist?

believe, the RACWA are no better. they are comfortably in bed with the government. i emailed them some time ago about some stupid statement they made about cameras, and do you think anyone had the bottle to reply? did they shite. i even sent a second email, but got nothing back on that either.
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Re: Who's Standing Up for Your Rights as a Motorist?

While it comes as no surprise that the NRMA is kissing the a$$ of the government, I can see why they're doing it (even through I don't agree with it). If you think of it this way.... the slower 2 cars are going the less panel damage is likely to occurr. Therefore the government lowering speed limits *in theory* should save them money on accident repairs.

The blunt reality in my opinion is that accidents do happen and a person doing 60kph but paying attention is far safer than someone doing 50kph and spending 80% of their time watching their speedo needle in case they wildly roll 2kmh over the 'limit'.

Victoria's stats speak for themselves on this one: Compared to last year, Fine revenue is down, but the road toll is up. 'Nuff said.
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Re: Who's Standing Up for Your Rights as a Motorist?

Just briefly, some facts need to be adhere too before you start telling motorists how bad a company are.

NRMA (RACV Insurance is not the same company as NRMA (RACV) roadside/membership.

Secondly, I see that RACV do a lot of the roads and the motorists, I believe they do a lot more that the government. Which is a shame being that I have to pay my rego to drive on the roads, membership and insurance are an option. No one says you have to support or pay NRMA, RACV, RACQ, etc. So don’t!

There are too many laws not enforced and due to this a lot of motorists are in danger. This would have to be the major concern with the fact that the roads could be in a better condition.

Mr Greed, I think you are pointing your finger into the wrong direction.
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