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Old 10-09-2002, 01:12   #1 (permalink)
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will there be T-series BA's?

Guys...
whats the go with the T-series?
i havn't heard crap all about them....

are they going to drop these for the GT?


i hope not!
how is ford going to compete with holden if they make four upper class V8's?

XR8
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Pursuit ute..

holden will take alot of the market with their HSV's..

FORD get out of your shadow and lets show how we can dominate the market like they have for the last few years.

dont be shy!!
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Old 10-09-2002, 01:15   #2 (permalink)
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T-Series is no longer.
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Old 10-09-2002, 01:17   #3 (permalink)
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The Y Series is ugly. Have you seen them. Ford has it right this time.
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Old 10-09-2002, 01:21   #4 (permalink)
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Most of the Ford equivilants are cheaper and more powerfull.

From what i've gathered GT (compete with Clubsport R8) is entry level FPV with around 320 kw and the GT-P is the luxury cruiser with same engine.

Correct me if im wrong
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GT-P will have more power than GT

GT = TE50
GT-P = TS50
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Old 10-09-2002, 01:51   #6 (permalink)
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GT should compete with clubby at high 50 --> low 60k bracket. GT-P should be R8 fighter at high 60k, with the (unconfirmed) HO later against GTS.

Will GT-P be luxo like TS/Senator or performance like TE/R8?
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Old 10-09-2002, 02:13   #7 (permalink)
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Hope you guys are right as the Clubsport and R8 is where all the volume is in this market. If FPVs entry level vehicle {sedan i mean} the GT is 70 or over i think they will struggle to reach their sales targets 320kw or not. Sure XR8 will have Clubsport power at a lesser price but fact is alot of buyers like to pay the extra 10k and get a vehicle thats one step above an SS or XR8 and more exclusive. I think this will become the case more than ever given that XR8 is'nt quite as agressive as it used to be for looks compared to a base Falcon. If GT can start at about 60 they should be able to show HSV a thing or two.
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Old 10-09-2002, 02:15   #8 (permalink)
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IMO its more likely that the GT goes up againts R8 with a price of just under $70k. And the GT-P against the Senator Signature ($74,000) and the Senator ($80,000)

You'd have to be in a fairy land to think ford is going to give a 300 - 320kw car away for around $60k. And if it ever comes out the GTHO againts the GTS.
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Old 10-09-2002, 02:20   #9 (permalink)
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If you look at the new HSV range, we dont have much to worry about
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From FPV website
The GT-P packs the same potent V8 engine as the GT with further performance and luxury enhancements as standard.

VY Clubby is 58K
VY R8 is 68K
XR8 will be 52K estimated

That is the competition, Ford would not leave a gap of 18k to the next model above the xr8. Especially when that is the volume of the "special" vehicles range.
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