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Old 12-26-2006, 15:39   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 99 Taurus, 3.0L for which I purchased a remote key on Ebay. Here is the problem--- Everyplace I have checked including the instructions that came with the remote state "turn the key on then off eight times with the eighth time left in the on position. All the key cycling must be done within 10 seconds and I know I am faster than that. Should hear/see the door locks cycling to let you know the locks are in the programming mode."

I have tried and tried. Even changed the count from 5 all the way to ten cycles of the key. Sure, after the eight count, just hit one key on the remote and you're are done. But I cannot get that far because the doors do not cycle the locks regardless of the number of times I have tried.

Has anyone done this before? Is there something "car" specific that alows the programming to be done? Are some 99 Taurus's not able to use door lock remotes???


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Old 12-26-2006, 16:20   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Programming a key remote

A couple of things here. For one thing, it came from e-bay, not necessarily bad, but could be. Most of the remotes I've seen on there are used. are you sure the battery in it is good? Also it has to be the right remote for the vehicle. There are numbers on the back of the remote, but I don't know what the right number is for your car. You need to find out, maybe call the dealer and ask them.
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Old 12-26-2006, 16:32   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Programming a key remote

Fonz--

I measured the remote's battery voltage. Seems OK at 3V. But that's not the problme. I cannot get the car into the programming mode. From what I found using Google it is the right remote.

The instructions state that the car should indicate it is in a programming mode by automatically cycling the locks indicating the remote can then be programmed. I cannot get that far.......... cannot get the car to give indications it is in a programming mode after cycling the key 8 times.

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Old 12-26-2006, 17:14   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Programming a key remote

I'm not sure what to tell you then. Are you turning all the way to the on position and then to off every time? (just checking). Do you know for sure your car came with this system? Have you checked all fuses? There should be some under the dash and some under the hood.
(If it's the same as my 1999 escort, then 8 cycles is correct)

Here is a link for a owners manual if you need it for general info. (pdf format)

http://www.genuineservice.com/genuin...ault?page=Home
that didn't work... try this one
Genuine Ford and Lincoln Mercury Parts & Service

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Old 12-26-2006, 19:43   #5 (permalink)
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Fonz--

Thanks for the pointer to the owner's manual. Downloaded.

Tomorrow I will check into what fuses but because the interior door locks and windows function, the fuese are probably OK. I did come across something though that may pertain to the problem I have. There is something called a Remote Antitheft personality Module that just might have a bearing on this problem.

Keep posting if you think of anything. Mean while, I will continue trying to get to the problem's source.

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Old 01-04-2007, 15:45   #6 (permalink)
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For a '99 Taurus

Key Programming-—Program a Key Using Two Programmed Keys
NOTE: This procedure only works if two or more programmed ignition keys are available and it is desired to program additional key(s). If two keys are not available, follow Key Programming — Erase All Key Codes and Program Two Keys.



NOTE: PID SPAREKY must be enabled for this procedure to operate. If this PID is not enabled, then follow the Security Access Procedure above, then select Spare Key Programming Switch: Enabled.



NOTE: If the programming procedure is successful, the new key(s) will start the vehicle and the THEFT INDICATOR will illuminate for approximately 3 seconds.



NOTE: If the programming procedure is not successful, the new key(s) will not start the vehicle and the THEFT INDICATOR will flash. If the programming procedure was not successful, repeat the Key Programming procedure from Step 1. If the failure repeats, check circuit 1001 (W/Y) (hot at all times) in PATS module for proper battery voltage. Repair circuit if voltage is not present. Refer to Diagnosis and Testing to review DTCs and perform Pinpoint Tests as required.



NOTE: A maximum of 8 ignition keys can be programmed to a passive anti-theft system (PATS) equipped vehicle. Use PID NUMKEYS to determine how many keys are programmed to vehicle.



NOTE: If the steps are not performed as outlined, the programming procedure will end.



NOTE: Ignition keys must have correct mechanical key cut for the vehicle and must be a PATS encoded key.



Insert first programmed ignition key into ignition lock cylinder and turn ignition switch from OFF to RUN (maintain ignition switch in RUN for 1 second.

Turn ignition switch to OFF and remove first key from ignition lock cylinder.

Within 5 seconds of turning the ignition switch to OFF, insert the second programmed ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN (maintain ignition switch in RUN for 1 second).

Turn ignition switch to OFF and remove second key from ignition lock cylinder.

Within 10 seconds of turning the ignition lock cylinder to OFF, insert the unprogrammed ignition key (new key) into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN (maintain ignition switch in RUN for 1 second).

If it is desired to program additional key(s), repeat the Key Programming Procedure from the beginning.


Key Programming-—Erase All Key Codes and Program Two Keys
NOTE: This procedure is when a customer needs keys programmed into the system and does not have two programmed ignition keys available. This procedure is also useful when programmed ignition key(s) have been lost or/and the ignition switch assembly has been replaced, and it is desired to erase key(s) from passive anti-theft system (PATS) memory.



NOTE: This procedure will erase all programmed ignition keys from the vehicle memory and the vehicle will not start until two keys have been reprogrammed to the vehicle. If only one encoded key is supplied to the dealership, a second encoded ignition key must be mechanically cut for the vehicle and programmed. A customer must be notified that other encoded ignition keys in their possession will no longer start the vehicle unless these keys are reprogrammed to the vehicle.



NOTE: Two PATS encoded keys with the correct mechanical cut must be available to perform this procedure. One or both of them may be the customer's original keys.



NOTE: If additional keys are to be programmed, follow Key Programming — Program a Key Using Two Programmed Keys. If the remaining keys are with the customer and are not available with the vehicle, then instruct the customer to refer to the Owner's Manual under the "Programming Spare [SecuriLock (North America) Safeguard (U.K.) or PATS for all other markets.] Keys Procedure" for instructions on programming the remaining keys.



Turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN.

Enter New Generation STAR Tester Configuration Function Card (NGS/SBDS). Follow the Security Access Procedure to obtain security access.

NOTE: Do NOT select any additional commands from this menu.



From NGS/SBDS menu: Select IGNITION KEY CODE ERASE.

Turn the ignition switch to OFF and disconnect NGS.

Insert the first encoded key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the switch to RUN for three seconds.

Insert the second encoded key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the switch to RUN for three seconds.

Vehicle should now start with both ignition keys.
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Re: Programming a key remote

Shoz--

Looks like you know something about Ford keys! But here is my problem that has yet to be solved. I do not need a spare key, I just want to use a remote door lock/unlock thing. Where this is discussed, the procedure states to switch the ignition from the off to the run position 8 times in less than 10 seconds, the eighth time leave the key in the run position. The door locks are supposed to cycle idicating the car has enter the programming mode for the remote. Next, within 20 seconds push any key on the remote itself. Done.

I have tried and tried but cannot get into the programming mode. I must be overlooking something or missing an instruction. The car is just a plain vannilla Ford Taurus LX.

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Old 01-04-2007, 18:35   #8 (permalink)
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How's this?

Programming, Electronic Door Lock Control System

NOTE: Keyless entry remote transmitters (15K601) have individual codes and adding a new code erases a previous code. There is no sure way to determine which code is erased.



When the customer has purchased additional keyless entry remote transmitters, or has replaced a lost keyless entry remote transmitter, the customer MUST bring to the dealer ALL of the keyless entry remote transmitters for the vehicle.
The dealer must then reprogram ALL of the keyless entry remote transmitters at the same time.
The remote anti-theft personality module erases all previous keyless entry remote transmitters from memory when the keyless entry remote transmitters are programmed or reprogrammed.
The remote anti-theft personality module can store up to four keyless entry remote transmitters in memory.
To program (or reprogram) keyless entry remote transmitters into the remote anti-theft personality module, perform the following steps.

Make sure that the anti-theft system is not armed or triggered. Refer to Section 13-11A .

Turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN five times within 10 seconds, ending in RUN.

If the remote anti-theft personality module has successfully entered program mode, it will lock and then unlock all doors.

Press any button on a keyless entry remote transmitter, and the doors will lock and then unlock to confirm that each keyless entry remote transmitter has been programmed.

If the door locks do not respond for any keyless entry remote transmitter, wait a few seconds and press the button again. If the door locks still fail to respond, go to Diagnosis and Testing, Pinpoint Test C .

Turn ignition switch OFF (or wait up to five minutes after Step 2) to exit program mode. If a new set of keyless entry remote transmitters have been programmed (or reprogrammed), the remote anti-theft personality module will lock and unlock all doors one last time to confirm.
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Old 01-04-2007, 18:41   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Programming a key remote

Yes, that is more like it. But does the car really need to get to the dealer?

Where I am looks to be "go to Diagnosis and Testing, Pinpoint Test C."

Whatever that is--

Foggy

EDIT: I doubt the car ever had a programmed remote but I don't know the history
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Old 01-04-2007, 18:55   #10 (permalink)
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You might not have a RAP module. Pinpoint test C is pretty in depth with testing radio transmitters and all.

Here is the Remote Anti-Theft Personality module, you can see it by taking the radio panel out and looking towards the gas pedal.

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