Originally Posted by Mustangman
its 69.99 and got one person 70hp its to put in your air intake tube and spin the air though your engine, kinda like a supercharger
I saw those at autozone...and wondered where they got their HP- betting from a dyno(highly subjective), not from 0-60 times. I personally really doubt the 'turbonator', 'tornado', or any other of the 'pinwheel in the aircleaner' would make any difference at all in a port injected engine...
with throttlebody or carb, if its dripping fuel in- MAYBE...if its got a mass airflow sensor, MAYBE it could disturb the airflow enough to fool the sensor into 'seeing' more air than actually flowing thru it- and responding by richening the mixture. If it works in either of these two ways, I'd prefer to fix the 'real' culprit...bad throttle body, or 'mileage' minded, lean OEM chip.
the one I saw was spotwelded together from a bunch of tin- imagine what would happen if a piece of it broke loose? No thanks...
as far a a paxto/vortech/whatever blow thru supercharger, I think that would be awesome- already got 300hp, over 400 should be no problem- as long as the bottom end can swing it- that is an aluminum block isnt it? Ive often wondered why they havent put an AC type clutch/reed valves on them, so you could switch off for highway trips(ala MadMax)- seems to me this would be fairly simple mod that could give best of both worlds.
Ive been using a lot of Aromat FP0/FPSigma PLC's at work, and they are so cool- about the size of a cigarrette pack, blazing fast scantimes, very stable/hi-resolution analog inputs...only around $150. built a LVDT based gage for automated part gaging, had under 1500 in the whole pkg- used it to replace a bunch of Marposs probes that were really too high resolution for the application-and cost over 4k$ alone...low and behold the cheapy setup has even higher resolution (in realtime-no delays from serial communication).
Built a wheel balancer/orientation machine to align wheels for robot loaded drilling, use a FPSigma ($380) processor, and servo with a 10,000 line encoder at 750 rpm can reliably capture position within 2 counts- most of our CNC's cant even come close to that. They are FAST/CHEAP/RELIABLE little controllers- I think perfect 'hobbyist' car toy.
I'm hoping to get one to play with in one of my cars to try and build a home made fuel injection system- thinking about a dual plane 'header-like' tubular 'manifold' with port injection, MAF for each half, oxygen sensor at EACH exhaust port, and a lot of fun programming...Im thinking it MIGHT be possible to get it all under my 69 mustangs stock hoodline- even with the 429.
If I get after it, will probably play with my 85 camaro 2.8 v6 first- its got a very good multiport bosch system, could probably grab some sensor data from while driving as-is, to graph some data to shoot for, then try to write ladder to get the math close to that- then start playing.
That old Camaro is just OK powerwise, but I noticed way back when it was new, if you turn on the AC on a cool morning, its got a LOT more full throttle power- cold=richer, AC=richer(even though at WOT the AC clutch releases)...the car runs so lean when warm its a toad- but has got up to 35 mpg(at 85 mph driving across newmexico in 100degree heat with the AC running)...its the only GM I have, but gotta admit its been a great car for 20 years now. My mom had a new (86?) tbird 3.8 v6, that had less power and got worse mileage than the Camaro- something about the cam/fuelinjection was far superior on that old bosch system- I'm sure new stuff is far ahead of that now, but looks like a simple system to tinker with/learn from(few sensors).
Guess Id better get started on the mustang- too many projects, but I think this would be a blast to play with...these little PLC's are so easy to program/fast/cheap...