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Any idea what they're asking for that Crossfire? I saw it last night on the way home from Krogers... sweet.
I'm still driving the Taurus MT-5 I bought new in 1986 from Leif Johnson Ford in Austin, where I was completing my doctorate in medicinal chemistry at UT Austin (Go Horns!). Was driving my old Toy Corolla at the time and sick of getting nickel and dimed keeping it running... when they wanted $400 to replace the clutch, I traded it in (now THAT is where you take a beating... $300?!?) and I could not resist the bright red 4-door sedan with a 5-speed manual tranny... nobody was buying them yet, as it was a new model year, and they had dropped the sticker price to $9,995 across the board. Mine came to just under $12k after thermoguard and rustproofing, title, tax, transfer, etc. Trying to keep it 24 years even to put my per year amortization at $500, heheheheh.
I think you all are correct about suspicions re dealers selling your orders to the highest bidders. This is America, afterall... land of uber-capitalism, where the dollar is king and greed rules. You could sue them for breach of contract, but I doubt it's worth the trouble or costs.
Here's my thought: do yourself a favor and CANCEL the order, then buy a USED car sans the depreciation, from an owner who has already taken care of the NUMEROUS warranty repairs... both niggling and major (and recalls). If they get rough, tell them you have a lawsuit of your own ready to roll should they try to enforce your own "performance" on the contract. Keep it calm...
My Taurus was in and out of the dealer's garage repeatedly throughout the warranty period (3 years). Each time I took it in, they looked at me like "What do *you* want again?" Even asked me what I did for a living to be able to spend so much time bringing it in for repairs... assholes. I was lucky; my buddy had also just bought a new F-150 and Subaru Slow-poke, so we took turns taking each other in to get our vehicles back. ;-) Thank God for those low-interest student loans...
And most times I'd go to pick it up, the mechanic would be driving it around the lot, having fun with the manual tranny. And the repairs were rarely done, and something else was almost always wrong compared to before they took it from me. I was rotating it between three Austin dealerships so that each one in sequence repaired the screw-ups of the previous one. It's all well-documented.
This is how Ford dealers have been TOLD to make their money (besides gouging folks on new models). Do *whatever* you can to avoid their garages... including for body work and paint (my baby got hit while parked on a public street 6 months after I bought it). Mine came back with orange peel paint and a big ding to the driver door, and that was after they'd refused working on it while I flew back to Cincy for a vacation while they repaired it; they said my insurance had cancelled the check so they let it sit, and I had to go without it another two weeks once I returned. grrrr... It was covered in dirt.
Back here in Cincy, after hitting a deer (& pole!) on Colerain, I had it repainted again, from Woody Sander since I was living in Mt. Auburn. Came back with serious swirls over the entire car from the morons washing it too soon after painting it without proper curing. I just kept it, as I was teaching at U.C. and didn't want to be bothered with their incompetance any further.
Their paint is notorious for flaws; mine was scratchable at the slightest touch (filed several reports to Geico, who paid out, then refused to renew me). My GF's Explorer had the entire roof's paint peel off. Ford KNEW about both, yet issued only silent recalls (dealers only pay if customer complains enough)! They dropped the fire red paint used on my baby two years after my car got it, because there were so many troubles with it (they claimed it was from problems matching it in repairs).
Another time in Cincy, I had to have my baby flat-bed towed to Mont. Ford after dropping a socket wrench into the timing hole in the trans-axel housing while trying to change the thermostat right above that hole (design flaw?). My service rep hadn't yet placed the "Do Not Start" card in my windshield when the mechanic tried moving it... they GAVE me a re-man tranny and clutch for that. Service rep was working at Pep Boys the next week.
Here's the scoop: the longer you make repairs yourself (or use independent garages), the better it will run and the longer you'll hold onto your $ (and car).
So do what I did... Call Ford's Detroit or even the regional customer service office and COMPLAIN. I got a mechanic, service rep, and the body shop manager all fired for incompetance... and finally got enough things repaired, I could maintain it myself once the warranty expired (for the most part). Then find a good, reliable mechanic to fix things you can't, and pray they are reasonable.
And buy used from a consciencious owner; you by-pass all that stressful BS *AND* save yourself both the gouging and the depreciation of a new car.
And your insurance should be lower to boot, although at 43 and having been married and having a spotless driving record, I have yet to see mine drop. At least it's fairly low to start from driving a family sedan, heheh. I switched to Amica when I moved back to Cincy and Geico refused me...
Have fun. Take control and save yourself both the money and hassles of buying new... if it's possible. But I'd say be wary of buying used late model from the dealer, because it was likely a lemon (most dealers refused to take my Taurus in trade the first 3 years for that reason). If you look hard, you'll find the creampuff some coed had given her by daddy, then had to return when she flunked out of college the second year, hehehe. Lots of those in Austin... Porsche, Audi, BMW, Merc. And ALL being sold at rock-bottom prices.
DrRandyBoy in Cincy
Originally Posted by 67-ish
Am I the only one who is at the end of their rope waiting for the car that they ordered in Dec of LAST YEAR? Was it a dream? No, no. I did order an 05' Mustang GT. Yes, Yes, I definitely ordered it. It is funny cause there is no Mustang sitting in my driveway. Let me go check. (checking). NOPE, still not there.
I am sick of it. I was so happy to see an awesome commercial for the Ford Mustang GT during American Idol last night. Ford can make the advertising. Too bad they cannot build the car. I think all advertising should cease until they can actually start producing the cars. Ford has my vote for the worst conceived marketing in contrast with what to decide to build. Current Ford loyalists are going to walk away from this flaming pile and future owners will look to GM or Chrysler. You know......that Cross-fire is pretty sweet. I wonder.........