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Old 05-24-2012, 13:11   #1 (permalink)
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03 D23 PZEV with a strange problem?

Most of you know what I've done on this car for front suspension an mounts, but for those who don't, I've replaced:

Front suspension:
Brake pads/rotors.
Sway bar endlinks.
Both front rear lower control arm bushings.
Both lower ball joints, and recently checked them for play.
Motor mount, torque mount, and trans mount.
inner and outer tie rods on both sides. Right was hit, left was just worn.

Front strut, and springs have less then 6000 miles on them, and the front right one which was at one point thought to be a problem, was taken apart and checked.

What is happening is on right turns, whether it be going 30MPH or highway speeds, it sounds like something is rubbing, I think it's just the brake pads on the rotor, but why would turning make it do that?

Secondly, could it be because the dowl pins for the caliper are bent ever so slightly? But again I find myself asking, how would that affect hearing the noise when only turning right?

Very confusing? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 05-24-2012, 14:36   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 03 D23 PZEV with a strange problem?

Have you tried it up on stands? If it makes the noise then, you may be able to locate the problem.
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Re: 03 D23 PZEV with a strange problem?

Could be slack in the wheel bearing on that side.
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Re: 03 D23 PZEV with a strange problem?

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Have you tried it up on stands? If it makes the noise then, you may be able to locate the problem.
Haven't gotten around to it, but I think I'll try that, see if it will do it at hand turning speed. I know I've checked all in there by hand spinning a while ago, but it's worth a try to see if it got worse enough to see it.

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Could be slack in the wheel bearing on that side.
And that could be it, the cars got 119k on it, but wouldn't I be feeling wheel wobble through the steering wheel?

Well my GF just told me that she feels shaking in the brake pedal, but not like a warped rotor would feel like?
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Re: 03 D23 PZEV with a strange problem?

Not necessarily. Jack it up and rock the tire in and out and see if there is any play in the bearing. If there's any at all, replace the bearing.
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Re: 03 D23 PZEV with a strange problem?

You know JWKO, it probably is that, IDK why I didn't think of that earlier.

At one point I had pops shaking the wheel side to side, and there was a little play in the wheel, but while he did that I went under the car, and the inner tie rod, and outer had no play, I also checked the ball joints and everything else.

I asked pops if that play was bad, and he said probably not. Well maybe at that period in time it wasn't a worry to him, but now it's making more noise, and is probably a worry.

Thanks guys, I'm going to go put it up on jacks, and check this theory.
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Re: 03 D23 PZEV with a strange problem?

Well let me retract for a min. I just took it to go get dinner, and it sounds like it's probably the bearing, Cause it sounds almost like the alignment is off.

Now it could be possible that the alignment is off, but I bet it's the bearing, just cause it's only happening on the right front wheel, and it does it on slight right hand turns, or a 45 degree right turn.

but never on a left hand turn?

Now I will go jack it up and spin that wheel. lol
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Alignments being off won't make a noise. You can run it with the engine while it's on the stands too.
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Re: 03 D23 PZEV with a strange problem?

Okay well I got it up there, and I really think it's the bearing, it seems to make a noise when I move it fast enough with the wheel turned to the right slightly.

I was looking at pushing new bearings in myself, since a new knuckle with bearings is $251, and I found enough places that sells bearings.

Tousley Ford for $55
Autozone- Timken for $44.99

I think I should probably go with the Ford part, but has anyone ever heard of Timken?
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Timkin is a well known brand. The bearings are good.
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