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Old 11-02-2012, 22:18   #11 (permalink)
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Re: ford focus 2003 1.8tdci PATS light flashing

(Do people not know what this is or what it means then ? transceiver communication bus failure)

Well im not to worried about that, if there’s to be problems like you suggest I believe I can fix them myself so the cost would be kept to a minimum.

As im sure you are aware it’s the PATs problems that aren't as easy for me to get sorted as I don’t know enough about them and don't work for ford
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(Do people not know what this is or what it means then ? transceiver communication bus failure)

Well im not to worried about that, if there’s to be problems like you suggest I believe I can fix them myself so the cost would be kept to a minimum.

As im sure you are aware it’s the PATs problems that aren't as easy for me to get sorted as I don’t know enough about them and don't work for ford
The transceiver is what takes the signal from the key and passes it to the PATS module which in turn determines if it's a legitimate key and give the go/no-go to the PCM.

"l B2141: NVM configuration failure. This means PATS does not have a stored PCM_ID in memory (PATS PID PCM_ID = notSTORED). If DTC U1147 is also present, it must be fixed first. Attempt to fix a U1262 first as well, but it may not be required to fix this fault prior to the B2141. If B2141 is the only DTC, then using Diagnostic Card, select: PCM, Active Commands, Keep Alive Memory Reset. Cancel back to the previous NGS screen. Turn ignition off. Then disconnect the DLC. Cycle ignition 3 times slowly (3 seconds on, 3 seconds off) to re-initialize the system."

I got that from here: Passive Anti Theft Diag TSB 99-26-6

If you notice, there is a 7.5A fuse to the power supply to the PATS: http://repairguide.autozone.com/znet...3f80235337.gif if you can find that, check it.

Part of your issue is, will the car even start or turn over, there's a blurb in another forum that talks about it for 2000 Explorer, which means that the color coding is going to be different for you:How to bypass a PATS

The PCM is what is holding out the starter, but you still have a relay that it controls. You can go old school and jump across the relay, or ground out the signal from the PCM (the black-red): http://repairguide.autozone.com/znet...3f80247680.gif

Iy might not allow it to run, but it should at least roll the engine.
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Let's know how you get on once the PATS / key problem is sorted out get back to the forum if needing more help .
Managed to get the PATs problem fixed at the moment,
Got a vehicle locksmith to come out and programme a new key.
(That’s the short version of the story)

Also managed to get the car started while using easy start :-)

But not after long it died...

It still turns over and would probably start again if I had some to help with spraying the right amount of easy start in there.

when it did start it sounded fairly good but was abit throaty as I had the intercooler of the car...

I haven't decided the next step yet, i might try and get it started again and see if there any other fault codes ect.

Also I think the previous owner had taken off the return fuel hose/s at some point (to try running the car off a can) so I’m assuming this maybe the reason it didn’t stay running and would be another thing i will have to investigate
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anyone have any advise ?
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Looking for codes is the next logical step. Checking vitals such as fuel pressure, spark, vacuum, etc., also important.
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Looking for codes is the next logical step. Checking vitals such as fuel pressure, spark, vacuum, etc., also important.
hi, I've checked a couple of them things, there aren't any faults code at the moment, i the is fuel in the filter but doesn't seem to be a lot in the flow and return hoses after the filter

what are the things i could do to eliminate the injector pump?
will this car have a lift pump as well ? (I've read on the net that it won't)

also i have manged to get the engine running briefly on easy start or equivalent

i have a nasty feeling i might need a new injector pump :(
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The lift pump should be part of the sending unit. I'm assuming what your calling the injector pump is the fuel pump. Your kind of stuck with it, as you need about 40 psi at the fuel rail. You might want to change the filter first, it sounds like the fuel pump is trying to send something.
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Re: ford focus 2003 1.8tdci PATS light flashing

Never done a lot of work on the diesel Focus but remember there was a modification to the camshaft sensor and wiring . This was a common and known fault , this explains .May apply to your car ,

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN No.69/2003
Car and Light/Medium Commercial 28.05.2003


Section: 303-04

Model: Mondeo 2001 (Build Date: 10/00 - 01.06.2003) (Build Code: YY - 3Y) (Engine: 2.0L DuraTorq-TDCi)
Focus 1999 (Build Date: 04.08.2002 - 23.04.2003) (Build Code: 2P - 3E) (Engine: 1.8L DuraTorq-TDCi)
Transit/Tourneo Connect 2002.5 (Build Date: 06/02 - 15.05.2003) (Build Code: 2U - 3L) (Engine: 1.8L DuraTorq-TDCi)
Transit 2000.5-Front wheel drive (Build Date: 01/00 - 30.06.2003) (Build Code: YB - 3Y) (Engine: 2.0L DuraTorq-TDCi)

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Subject: Poor power; delayed accelerator response and/or rough idle, engine hard or impossible to start

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Should a customer express concern over poor power; occasional delayed accelerator response and/or rough idle and the engine is hard or impossible to start, the probable cause is insufficient signal from the camshaft position sensor (CMP sensor). Some vehicles may also have diagnostic trouble code (DTC) 0340 set. To rectify the concern, the signal at the CMP sensor should be increased from 5 volts to 12 volts using a CMP sensor additional wiring harness.

Could also check the crank sensor .
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The lift pump should be part of the sending unit. I'm assuming what your calling the injector pump is the fuel pump. Your kind of stuck with it, as you need about 40 psi at the fuel rail. You might want to change the filter first, it sounds like the fuel pump is trying to send something.
Yes that is correct its (fuel pump, injector pump ect) witch is under the bonnet.


Hi, i have manged to disconnect all pipes and get the car runnng from a jerry can full of diesel.

this will run and the seems to have full power, however the car dosn't start very easily everytime, i sometimes need a squirt of easy start....
this may be because there would normally tank back pressure witch wouldnt get in a can.

is there anyway i can check if the ignition system is working properly i.e glow plugs ect to make it start at the turn of the key.

would my car have a lift pump aswell (in the tank) if not all i can guess is that there may be a split hose somewhere thats allowing the system to draw in air and no fuel :(
The fuel filter has been replace recently but not sure when.
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