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Old 08-21-2012, 23:22   #1 (permalink)
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My SVT died :(

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My 2002 SVT died on the way home tonight and I had to get it towed.

I was driving along the freeway when I noticed I'd lost power. I coasted to an exit and pulled off just as the engine died. There was a lot of smoke coming from under the hood. It was like cooked oil. I checked the water and there was plenty of water in it. I also checked the oil level and it was almost an inch above normal. I put a quart of oil in about a month ago and that took it to just over the notch so it looks like there is more oil in it now. Crazy...I know.

I didn't see any indication of over heating while I was driving. I always try keep an eye on the gauges as I know I have a water leak. It's coming from somewhere towards the back of the engine so I cant get to it or I would have fixed it by now. Anyway...bottom line is I didn't see the gauges go high but that doesn't mean they didn't.

I don't know where to start to try and fix or diagnose this.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 08-22-2012, 00:33   #2 (permalink)
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It does sound supiciously like it has overheated. If the oil level has risen since you last checked it then its possible it is contaminated with water.

First thing I would check would be compressions and look hard at the oil for water contamination and the water for oil contamination.

You said it was full of water but have you added any water recently.
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:57   #3 (permalink)
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Doesn't take a lot of water/oil mix to make big clouds. Sounds like a blown head gasket. If your doing compression, check for fluid in the cylinders.
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Sounds like head gasket gone , a block test will confirm or not .Simple test .Check for emulsified oil in sump .Depends where gasket goes whether it goes into oil or straight out exhaust .
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It does sound supiciously like it has overheated. If the oil level has risen since you last checked it then its possible it is contaminated with water.

First thing I would check would be compressions and look hard at the oil for water contamination and the water for oil contamination.

You said it was full of water but have you added any water recently.
Yes, I add water a lot as I have a water leak. The leak appears to be coming from somewhere between the back of the engine and the firewall but I cant really see from where which is why I haven't fixed it yet.
I didn't see any signs of water in the oil but I will check again later.
I can do a compression check at the weekend.
Should I try and start it today? I'm a bit wary.
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Easier for you to check for a leak whilst engine is cold . Could be something minor but if left unrepaired will or may have developed into a bigger job .Usually can see traces of rusty water if it's overheated indicating where leak is . If not , a pressure test on cooling system should reveal cause of coolant loss .Check oil and water levels now engine cold .
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I couldn't imagine were water would be coming from on the back of the motor, the most common thing to leak is the thermostat housing on the right side of the block.

So I have to agree that it might be a blown head gasket, and it's seeping from the back of the head.
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Yes, I add water a lot as I have a water leak. The leak appears to be coming from somewhere between the back of the engine and the firewall but I cant really see from where which is why I haven't fixed it yet.
I didn't see any signs of water in the oil but I will check again later.
I can do a compression check at the weekend.
Should I try and start it today? I'm a bit wary.
Would be safest not to start it unless you really have to. Sounds like the headgasket might be gone which a compression test may confirm.

Water coming from the back of the engine could be a couple of things including the head gasket. If there is any water tubing or a freeze plug back there then they could also be the source.
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Would be safest not to start it unless you really have to. Sounds like the headgasket might be gone which a compression test may confirm.

Water coming from the back of the engine could be a couple of things including the head gasket. If there is any water tubing or a freeze plug back there then they could also be the source.
i checked the levels this morning when cold. The water was empty (not unusual because of the leak) and the oil was about 1/2 inch over the top notch. Still higher than it was a couple of weeks ago when I checked it.

I filled the water reservoir up and I did try and start it.

I could hear the starter motor turning but the engine didn't turn. (Well... I could hear SOMETHING turning. I just assume it was the starter motor) uh oh.

I had a look under the timing belt cover and I could see that the timing belt was in place at the top of the cogs. I'm guessing I wouldn't have seen it at all if it had broken.

I don't know what would cause the starter not to engage other than the bendix sticking or the engine seized.

I'm getting very worried now as I'm thinking it's more than a head gasket problem.
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If its a badly blown gasket or perhaps head surface has warped then water may have entered the cylinders.

You could try removing the spark plugs and cranking the engine to see if it will turn over. If water has entered then it may squirt out the sparkplug hole.

It could still be a battery or starter issue or perhaps seized but often an overheat seize will turn over again once it has cooled back down.
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